Pulsar talion?

[Andrewslater]

I’m after any real world feedback of the pulsar talion XQ 38 thermal scope.

What are its limitations and what range were users comfortable taking shots at on roe/fallow and foxes?

Did anyone find any issues zero’ing the unit and holding zero?

Main intended use would be enhancing last light capability from highseats on those dark nights when standard optic doesnt permit the full hour. All shots are likely to be within 150m and animal would of already have been ID’d using a thermal spotter.

Has anyone got any pics of one mounted to a blaser r8 using the innomount adapter?

Is the innomount as repeatable as standard blaser mounts?

 

[jall55]

My mate has one - very very good
Holds zero
Easy to zero
The only issue we found was contrast - it was possible to sort of black it out - unlike my thermion - but that trying to be critical

Great value for money and will do in my opinion for 95-99% of the opportunities presented

If you PM me i will whasapp a video he took the other day at 400 yards - you will be amazed - I was

 

[Steve29]

A mate has one. I’ve not used it myself but it was easy to zero (took 4 shots while I was with him) then comfortably shot a fox at around 180m in thick fog. He loves it.

 

[jall55]

A mate has one. I’ve not used it myself but it was easy to zero (took 4 shots while I was with him) then comfortably shot a fox at around 180m in thick fog. He loves it.

In thick fog ? Respectfully were you there - this seems a little fanciful

 

[Shootgun]

Has anyone got any pics of one mounted to a blaser r8 using the innomount adapter?

Is the innomount as repeatable as standard blaser mounts?

I had one and they are brilliant for the money and the Innomount is as good as the Blaser mount.

I have one Innomount mount for Talion in the sales section at a discounted price, as new if you decide to go down that route.

 

[Steve29]

In thick fog ? Respectfully were you there - this seems a little fanciful

Does it now? And what reason would I have to embellish the truth? I have no stake in pulsar so couldn’t really give a hoot whether the OP buys one or not.

I was stood next to him when he took the shot, was able to see said fox and the whole thing unfold in my own thermal but no chance with my NV as the IR just reflected off the fog.

Here’s a little light reading for you;

Pulsar Helion | Thermal Scope | Pulsar Vision

www.pulsar-nv.com

 

[Acm]

Does it now? And what reason would I have to embellish the truth? I have no stake in pulsar so couldn’t really give a hoot whether the OP buys one or not.

I was stood next to him when he took the shot, was able to see said fox and the whole thing unfold in my own thermal but no chance with my NV as the IR just reflected off the fog.

Here’s a little light reading for you;

Pulsar Helion | Thermal Scope | Pulsar Vision

www.pulsar-nv.com

I have a thermal monocular and night vision scope and find the same thing, easily spot using the thermal in heavy fog but the night vision is useless. If you were using a thermal scope I’m sure a fox at 180m is on the cards, fog or no fog.

 

[Andrewslater]

I’ve found thermal to be borderline useless in fog.

 

[baguio]

Does it now? And what reason would I have to embellish the truth? I have no stake in pulsar so couldn’t really give a hoot whether the OP buys one or not.

I was stood next to him when he took the shot, was able to see said fox and the whole thing unfold in my own thermal but no chance with my NV as the IR just reflected off the fog.

Here’s a little light reading for you;

Pulsar Helion | Thermal Scope | Pulsar Vision

www.pulsar-nv.com

The text you're talking about picked out.

The advantage of thermal imagers lies in the fact that they do not need any external sources of illumination, they are passive systems which work well in both the daytime and pitch-black nighttime conditions. As mentioned before bad weather conditions such as fog or rain do not create obstacles for thermal imager, these conditions would make ordinary night vision units completely useless.

 

[jall55]

Does it now? And what reason would I have to embellish the truth? I have no stake in pulsar so couldn’t really give a hoot whether the OP buys one or not.

I was stood next to him when he took the shot, was able to see said fox and the whole thing unfold in my own thermal but no chance with my NV as the IR just reflected off the fog.

Here’s a little light reading for you;

Pulsar Helion | Thermal Scope | Pulsar Vision

www.pulsar-nv.com

Lol - stop being so sensitive as an XP !

Maybe you dont know how far 180 m is

When its thick fog / heavy rain or thick drizzle i head for home

Thats with accolades and Thermion XP

When its a bit foggy my mate with his Talion stays in

 

[Steve29]

Lol - stop being so sensitive as an XP !

Maybe you dont know how far 180 m is

When its thick fog / heavy rain or thick drizzle i head for home

Thats with accolades and Thermion XP

When its a bit foggy my mate with his Talion stays in

Well that says it all then. If you’re both fair weather shooters then how can you know what effect bad weather has on kit?

And I’m pretty comfortable with distances thanks, although it’s more difficult at night and I rely on paces. That’s why I said “around 180m”.

 

[jall55]

Well that says it all then. If you’re both fair weather shooters then how can you know what effect bad weather has on kit?

And I’m pretty comfortable with distances thanks, although it’s more difficult at night and I rely on paces. That’s why I said “around 180m”.

Lol !
As i say i GO home

You must be a marketers dream !

But lets not have an argument - it doesnt matter really does it

 

[Steve29]

Lol !
As i say i GO home

You must be a marketers dream !

But lets not have an argument - it doesnt matter really does it

No argument from me, the posts speak for themselves. Someone who admits they head home in bad weather can’t really comment on how kit performs in bad weather, can they?

Have a good evening.

 

[Steve29]

I’ve found thermal to be borderline useless in fog.

I suspect that depends on the thermal. My last one was borderline useless in any bad weather (HIK 15mm) but current one (Falcon FQ35) is far better and my mates XP50 Pro is even better again. At the ranges you’re taking about for the talion you will be fine.

 

[Andrewslater]

Im curious now because we may have different definitions of thick fog. I have a pulsar helion 2 xp50 i bought from macleods in december and on the few occasions i have used it in fog i haven't been able to see any backdrop further than about 30m and maybe deer sized heat signatures to 100m at most but certainly not clear enough to take a shot. Is there a setting improvement for fog? Am i missing something?


When I'm talking thick fog i’m talking cant see past about 10m with naked eye.

Previously had a zeiss dti 3/35 i have just sold and it was the same, thick fog drastically limited its potential.

 

[3.5mag]

I've found with my spotters & Thermion XQ50 that background merges into nothingness but the target animal still stands out in fog, with the proviso that the animal itself isn't dripping wet & cold.

 

[Andrewslater]

I've found with my spotters & Thermion XQ50 that background merges into nothingness but the target animal still stands out in fog, with the proviso that the animal itself isn't dripping wet & cold.

Yeah i guess a bit of focus adjustment and the animal may get clearer. Im not prepared to take shots when i cant clearly see the background but i guess that will all depend on topography of ground.

 

[Steve29]

Im curious now because we may have different definitions of thick fog. I have a pulsar helion 2 xp50 i bought from macleods in december and on the few occasions i have used it in fog i haven't been able to see any backdrop further than about 30m and maybe deer sized heat signatures to 100m at most but certainly not clear enough to take a shot. Is there a setting improvement for fog? Am i missing something?


When I'm talking thick fog i’m talking cant see past about 10m with naked eye.

Previously had a zeiss dti 3/35 i have just sold and it was the same, thick fog drastically limited its potential.

We may and it’s definitely a subjective point. The fog I’m talking about was like pea soup though so I think we are on the same page. We were looking down into a bowl of it below us. Where we were stood at the top of the bowl wasn’t quite as bad, still foggy and made NV useless though. Two of us could see into the fog in the bowl, the other two couldn’t (older thermals). We spotted Charlie at around 50m and he made it to 180m before he could be shot. The two better thermal spotters (inc XP50) were good enough to follow him and the action, the talion was good enough to make out the target and take a successful shot.

Now, I’m not saying (and haven’t) that the detail of the target was perfect, or that it would have been ok if circumstances were different (we know the ground well and we’re shooting down into a grass bank), but it all worked well for us and we were both impressed by the talion. The main headline was that it left NV well behind in such conditions. NV was completely useless.

 

[cutty sark]

Lost in the fog but not mist

 

[jall55]

I suspect that depends on the thermal. My last one was borderline useless in any bad weather (HIK 15mm) but current one (Falcon FQ35) is far better and my mates XP50 Pro is even better again. At the ranges you’re taking about for the talion you will be fine.

No argument from me, the posts speak for themselves. Someone who admits they head home in bad weather can’t really comment on how kit performs in bad weather, can they?

Have a good evening.

They do - 180 metres in fog that the naked eye cant see 10 m - Star Trek eat your heart out