Rangefinder binoculars

Hi folks,

I’m going to purchase a pair of Leica or Swarovski 10x42 rangefinder binoculars anyone advise on the following
1-which are the clearer
2-any rangefinder issues
3-any warranty issues
4-any other issues

thanks Jimmy
Hi I’m sure you have but make sure you look through them and test them.
I would love a pair and nearly bought a pair of Swaros but I am left eye dominant and found reading the range a real problem as it projected on the right eye.
They are brilliant but expensive so do check first.

BE
 
Ive had a pair of Leica lrf 8x56 for ten years and really rely on them. about two years ago I had a problem with the focus wheel, sent them off to Leica and while it took a while they came back refurbished and the small scratch on one lens was gone no charge amazing as the were 8 years old.
 
P.S. my wife has just reminded me that my Leicas are "hopeless" and she prefers her Swarovski non rf. Obviously not a valid contribution !
 
Had the Swaro RFs after trying the Leica and Zeiss equivalents back to back. All good, but Swaros stomped it with brightness to my eyes and edge to edge clarity.

Nice to have, but sold them as didnt have much open ground at the time where they come into their own.
 
Swarovski, all day long and twice on Sunday! The glass to my eyes is crisper and brighter. The build quality is fantastic, the customer service is as good as you can get and they are just very comfortable to use.

A friend had the Ziess version, had a look through EL’s and went and traded for EL’s…

Regards,
Gixer
 
Some of you lot miss the point...

Best of both worlds, Swaro binos for the better glass, Leica rangefinder for the better firmware (longer ranges and quicker report/tracking/dial solution).

Stick the rangefinder on a tripod and you will find it much more convenient to spot something freehand with binos, glass with spotting scope then take a steady range reading with rangefinder.

Yes you can mount binoculars to a tripod, but not ideal.

Only use the rangefinder if you have time. If you don't have enough time, you probably should not be taking the shot, especially on live game. Far target with short exposure time is a recipe for disaster.

If you want a really quick shot at an unknown range, use a low mag, guestimate the range, spot the impact and hold off to have the correct hold. Faster than trying to work out a firing solution.

Again don't ever do this on live quarry 🤥

BTW, a lot of guides use separate rangefinders for rifles and bows. For a rifle rangefinder I would pick Leica everytime, for bows (not really relevant here, bur whatever) it would be Leupold. Maybe Bushnell if you don't shoot crazy angles.

As you were.
 
Leica Noctovid and Ziess HT bins are far better binoculars than either rangefinder bins to my eyes How much do we range and how much do we look through them? - use a separate RF is my system, learn the area and range land marks or when on hill or something is a over 1 and a half football pitches away check with RF
 
Hi I’m sure you have but make sure you look through them and test them.
I would love a pair and nearly bought a pair of Swaros but I am left eye dominant and found reading the range a real problem as it projected on the right eye.
They are brilliant but expensive so do check first.

BE
That is very helpful big ears..... only having the left eye functioning means I won't have to look a complete idiot trying out range finding Swaro's! No real choice for me, I need to get a rangefinder and use it alongside a monocular because judging distance with one eye is a complete pain in the bum!
 
How far do you want to range them to know it's a twenty minute hike to see em & ID em'?
Slightly different hunting down here, after spotting it could be a hour or more to get to a shot. We actually tested the binoculars by hitting different types of cover, i.e rock, trees, buildings.
Range finders are used here for putting up logging drag lines etc, so angles are important as well. All foresters carry small range finder as you have to be a minimum of two trees away from each other.
 
That is very helpful big ears..... only having the left eye functioning means I won't have to look a complete idiot trying out range finding Swaro's! No real choice for me, I need to get a rangefinder and use it alongside a monocular because judging distance with one eye is a complete pain in the bum!
If you effectively only have one eye working, which is how I read it sorry if I am wrong, you only need a monocular rangefinder and don't pay for th eother bits of glass. Of course I may have missed the point completely and am being over simple.

Regards,

David
 
Some of you lot miss the point...

Best of both worlds, Swaro binos for the better glass, Leica rangefinder for the better firmware (longer ranges and quicker report/tracking/dial solution).

Stick the rangefinder on a tripod and you will find it much more convenient to spot something freehand with binos, glass with spotting scope then take a steady range reading with rangefinder.

Yes you can mount binoculars to a tripod, but not ideal.

Only use the rangefinder if you have time. If you don't have enough time, you probably should not be taking the shot, especially on live game. Far target with short exposure time is a recipe for disaster.

If you want a really quick shot at an unknown range, use a low mag, guestimate the range, spot the impact and hold off to have the correct hold. Faster than trying to work out a firing solution.

Again don't ever do this on live quarry 🤥

BTW, a lot of guides use separate rangefinders for rifles and bows. For a rifle rangefinder I would pick Leica everytime, for bows (not really relevant here, bur whatever) it would be Leupold. Maybe Bushnell if you don't shoot crazy angles.

As you were.
that's an eclectic post on a stalking forum to be accusing us of missing the point
 
If you effectively only have one eye working, which is how I read it sorry if I am wrong, you only need a monocular rangefinder and don't pay for th eother bits of glass. Of course I may have missed the point completely and am being over simple.

Regards,

David
Nope, you read it right David.... only one eye, so a distance reading in the right lens of a pair of bino's would be a complete waste of time. Often look at range finding bino's and sigh! Back to the monocular and a cheap and cheerful rangefinder!:tiphat:
 
Slightly different hunting down here, after spotting it could be a hour or more to get to a shot. We actually tested the binoculars by hitting different types of cover, i.e rock, trees, buildings.
Range finders are used here for putting up logging drag lines etc, so angles are important as well. All foresters carry small range finder as you have to be a minimum of two trees away from each other.
Got it!:thumb:
 
If you effectively only have one eye working, which is how I read it sorry if I am wrong, you only need a monocular rangefinder and don't pay for th eother bits of glass. Of course I may have missed the point completely and am being over simple.

Regards,

David
You would have to be almost completely blind on your right eye for you not seeing the display. Plus you will have hard time finding a monocular in this category to render even half the image quality of a Swaro, Leica etc. bino.
 
You would have to be almost completely blind on your right eye for you not seeing the display. Plus you will have hard time finding a monocular in this category to render even half the image quality of a Swaro, Leica etc. bino.
I have a Leica rangefinding monocular and the image quality is pretty darn good.

David.
 
Some of you lot miss the point...

Best of both worlds, Swaro binos for the better glass, Leica rangefinder for the better firmware (longer ranges and quicker report/tracking/dial solution).

Stick the rangefinder on a tripod and you will find it much more convenient to spot something freehand with binos, glass with spotting scope then take a steady range reading with rangefinder.

Yes you can mount binoculars to a tripod, but not ideal.

Only use the rangefinder if you have time. If you don't have enough time, you probably should not be taking the shot, especially on live game. Far target with short exposure time is a recipe for disaster.

If you want a really quick shot at an unknown range, use a low mag, guestimate the range, spot the impact and hold off to have the correct hold. Faster than trying to work out a firing solution.

Again don't ever do this on live quarry 🤥

BTW, a lot of guides use separate rangefinders for rifles and bows. For a rifle rangefinder I would pick Leica everytime, for bows (not really relevant here, bur whatever) it would be Leupold. Maybe Bushnell if you don't shoot crazy angles.

As you were.
Can I ask and with all due respect to Swarovski or any other manufacturer. What do you mean by better glass? Refractive index, coating or glass type? Many state manufacturer x has better glass, but what ? Some say that x has a blue tint, others say green etc, but the designers apply the light spectrum to suit, so something that maybe slightly blue (or colder) in day, may perform better in low light?
 
Can I ask and with all due respect to Swarovski or any other manufacturer. What do you mean by better glass? Refractive index, coating or glass type? Many state manufacturer x has better glass, but what ? Some say that x has a blue tint, others say green etc, but the designers apply the light spectrum to suit, so something that maybe slightly blue (or colder) in day, may perform better in low light?

Will depend on your eyes IMHO.

However, it is a fact that no matter how good the glass, it is useless for observation unless held steady.

Swaro's EL (Ergonomic Light) design is one of the best in this respect. Leica binoculars tend to suit those with slightly smaller hands.
 
Will depend on your eyes IMHO.

However, it is a fact that no matter how good the glass, it is useless for observation unless held steady.

Swaro's EL (Ergonomic Light) design is one of the best in this respect. Leica binoculars tend to suit those with slightly smaller hands.
After 24 years working for two optical companies, I did wonder what was meant in the comments on who has the best glass? I agree 100%, the best is the one that suits that persons eyes.
 
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I have Swarovski El Range and the range finder has stopped working,all other functions working perfectly i was a bit pi..ed off as they are only 5 years old with only light use,happened right in the middle of the sika rut and on the way home from that outing i called into my go to dealer and bought a pair of Zeiss hd range to keep me going for the rest of the season. My question will Swarovski repair free of charge? Their glass is second to none but build quality?
 
They are I believe out of warranty for the electronics, but you never know unless you ask.
Should have bought Vortex, you would have got a brand new pair as a replacement.
 
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