Red Kettle
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The outdoor clothing market is a tough and unforgiving one.
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John Gryphon
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Oh such a succinct reply that did sfa for the OP
I have seen their products, they look to be quite good. Came out top in a Swedish test, Test winner! RedKettle Light Ventile Hunting Jacket
I've not met anyone using this gear, however the website shows recent activity Recoil TV featuring RedKettle gear
Regards
JCS
Perhaps I should have added "many get scalded"?
Ventile; the chosen material for the only item of clothing I could find for sale on thier website, is another old-world product/material used - so I'm reliably informed - in the making of the Hogwarts School raincoat. No suprise then it has an attendant cult following and nowhere more so than the Bushcrafting community who shamelessly champion it's Harry Potter-like properties as the ultimate cloak against inclement weather. This key component of the Bushcrafter's uniform is ony second in importance to owning an Alan Wood made Ray Mears knife to permit engaging with the outdoors.
I wish RK every success but they've got their work cut out with such a niche product that can be a;- very noisy in damp & cold weather and b;- equally unsupple when exposed to heavy rain.
It would though be great around the post stalk in-the-woods cook-up fire as it eats pine tar sparks for breakfast.
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Ps: If they wish to send me one to permit an honest & fair review based on in-the-field use I will happily oblige.
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I remember speaking to the Red Kettle fella when he was showing at the first Kelso, he asked me a few questions regarding his offerings that he gad with him, I considered them very well made & thought out ..... however his original stuff was way off base as to colour ..... looks like his newer offerings are in a better shading.
John Gryphon
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There is no need Klenchy,you have done the job already and after your original answer I went looking and as soon as I saw the jacket price and converted it to AUD I nearly shcatt myself and decided there and then that the RK logo wouldnt be seen around these hills.
Here's a link to an article about Redkettle and the owner Christian Saugmann in a Danish online hunting magazine from November. RedKettle - Drømmen der blev til virkelighed
Cumbrian 1
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Utter crap ventile does not become stiff, it absorbs some water for the fibres to swell in order to become waterproof, but it is a very lightweight material, durable and totally silent (it is after all simply cotton, here is an experiment wear a cotton shirt in the rain and see how loud it becomes), I used ventile products when I was a keeper full time and it never let me down. There are also quite a few companies still using ventile, I always laugh at the plonkers who swear by modern breathable materials in my opinion when you are doing serious climbing/hiking you may as well wear a bin bag for all of the breathability hype that surrounds the like of gore tex.
Good to see an alternative take on the product in question based on personal experience of the garment. Something I'm happy to acknowledge I do not have, hence my offer to field test the Red Kettle jacket. With regard to my assertion of fabric stiffening when wet it may be helpful to note there are many grades/weights of Ventile that, coupled with the use of twin layers in many outdoor smocks such as those made by Hilltrek, would magnify the key feature of Ventile that is expanded fibers that in turn close the weave when exposed to rain.
If anyone wishes to read more about the fabric and which clothing manufacturers use it you could do worse than start here https://ventile.co.uk/history/ and here EtaProof, EtaDry, Twill – Outdoorstoffe von höchster Qualität by Stotz
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200 g/m²
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150 cm
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jackets, coats, down jackets, ski wear, hats, shoes
Hydrostatic head (DIN EN 20811)
mm of water column: 720
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200 g/m²
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150 cm
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jackets, coats, down jackets, ski wear, hats, shoes
Hydrostatic head (DIN EN 20811)
mm of water column: 600
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220 g/m²
Width
150 cm
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jackets, coats, down jackets, ski wear, hats, shoes
Hydrostatic head (DIN EN 20811)
mm of water column: 600
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240 g/m²
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Nutzbreite: 150 cm
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heavier coats and jackets, ski wear, hats, shoes, bags
Hydrostatic head (DIN EN 20811)
mm of water column: 720
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240 Bio
Weight
240 g/m²
Width
Nutzbreite: 150 cm
Applications
heavier coats and jackets, ski wear, hats, shoes, bags
Hydrostatic head (DIN EN 20811)
mm of water column: 600
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270
Weight
270 g/m²
Width
150 cm
Applications
heavier coats and jackets, ski wear, hats, shoes, bags
Hydrostatic head (DIN EN 20811)
mm of water column: 720
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300
Weight
300 g/m²
Width
100 cm
Applications
original army type for immersion suits, developed during World War II, shoes, bags
Hydrostatic head (DIN EN 20811)
mm of water column: 900
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110
Weight
110 g/m²
Width
150 cm
Applications
light jackets, shirts
Hydrostatic head (DIN EN 20811)
mm of water column: 300
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EtaDry
110 Bio
Weight
110 g/m²
Width
150 cm
Applications
light jackets, shirts
Hydrostatic head (DIN EN 20811)
mm of water column: 300
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EtaDry
130
Weight
130 g/m²
Width
150 cm
Applicatins
light jackets, shirts
Hydrostatic head (DIN EN 20811)
mm of water column: 300
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EtaDry
130 Bio
Weight
130 g/m²
Width
150 cm
Applications
light jackets, shirts
Hydrostatic head (DIN EN 20811)
mm of water column: 300
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EtaDry
150
Weight
150 g/m²
Width
150 cm
Applications
light jackets, shirts
Hydrostatic head (DIN EN 20811)
mm of water column: 300
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Hornet 6
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Ventile, never had a problem with it, and I have used to for nearly 40 years, I have tried modern stuff like gore-tex which has never lasted long, always gone back to the ventile.
I have 3 jackets (two barbour & 1 Fisher) plus a lightweight single layer smock that came from Silvermans (new)
They remade quiet and flexible no matter how wet, the only one that will let the damp in is the smock, uncomfortable if you only have a T shirt under it, but un-noticable if you have a light fleece under it.
Neil.
I have 3 jackets (two barbour & 1 Fisher) plus a lightweight single layer smock that came from Silvermans (new)
They remade quiet and flexible no matter how wet, the only one that will let the damp in is the smock, uncomfortable if you only have a T shirt under it, but un-noticable if you have a light fleece under it.
Neil.
Cumbrian 1
Well-Known Member
Not stiff? Not noisy? Not heavy?
Hornet 6
Well-Known Member
Not stiff, not noisy, very definitely not noisy.
Heavy, when wet maybe, certainly heavier than a modern super lightweight gor-tex jacket, but they are always noisy and never last long.
Users choice I suppose, I know what I need a jacket to do, and Ventile does just what I need, and keeps on doing year after year.
Neil.
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