Reloading Advice

[Bowland blades]

counting was a stupid waste of time for both the FEO and the shooter and it would only add man hours ! I thought all forces dumped the daft practice tbf ? Sounds like some forces need to re-evaluate what is really important and counting how many rounds a licenced person has in their safe is a totally daft waste for the shooter and the feo !

 

[MasterMason]

Is it Law, or is it Guildence? I think this is why some forces do what they do. Personally I thought it was Guieldence from the Home Office about the ownership of firearms and explosives? Spent primers are a good way of showing usage in my opinion and they take up very little room with the amount most shoot in the UK. Then keep a jar of the knackered brass, once it becomes unusable.

It is there guidance but unfortunately its these guys who will delay the renewals process or make things difficult during the visits, if there recommendations arnt followed

 

[finnbear270]

It is there guidance but unfortunately its these guys who will delay the renewals process or make things difficult during the visits, if there recommendations arnt followed

And the more of US, that comply with nonsense rulings will allow THEM to propagate even more hoops.

 

[Smellydog]

It is there guidance but unfortunately its these guys who will delay the renewals process or make things difficult during the visits, if there recommendations arnt followed

They have no authority to issue " their" guidance. There role is to uphold the law. Nothing more.
There is home office guidance to the police regarding firearms law that is freely available to you as well via .gov.

 

[Smellydog]

The problem is some police forces have a chief constable that enjoys shooting sports and hence their licensing team are quite possibly enthusiast's as well or totally neutral. Other forces will be the polar opposite and any firearm, legal or not are a nemesis and should be as difficult to obtain as humanly possible!
As long as firearm ownership in the UK is regarded as a privilege and not a right there will always be issues and a willing spirit of compromise at our, the end users expense.

 

[MTheaded but happy]

I just make them aware in the comments box at every renewal and variation that I hand load all my CF ammo . I've never been asked to log my homeloads in any way shape or form .

 

[MasterMason]

They have no authority to issue " their" guidance. There role is to uphold the law. Nothing more.
There is home office guidance to the police regarding firearms law that is freely available to you as well via .gov.

Number of Firearms: Many local police forces enforce a tiered security system. If you hold a large quantity of firearms (typically 6 or more), some forces—such as Lincolnshire—classify this as a "Level 2" security requirement and may mandate a monitored intruder alarm as a condition of your certificate. [1, 2]

 

[Smellydog]

Number of Firearms: Many local police forces enforce a tiered security system. If you hold a large quantity of firearms (typically 6 or more), some forces—such as Lincolnshire—classify this as a "Level 2" security requirement and may mandate a monitored intruder alarm as a condition of your certificate. [1, 2]

I'm missing your point?

 

[MasterMason]

I'm missing your point?

Just showing a few local police ask fir it although not stipulated by the HO

 

[trickie]

I was asked this on my last renewal.
My reply was:

No I don’t keep a record of my purchases. I do keep a record of rounds fired for each of my centre fire rifles.
She was ok with that

 

[bakerlads]

Never been asked.

 

[trickie]

Number of Firearms: Many local police forces enforce a tiered security system. If you hold a large quantity of firearms (typically 6 or more), some forces—such as Lincolnshire—classify this as a "Level 2" security requirement and may mandate a monitored intruder alarm as a condition of your certificate. [1, 2]

Avon and Somerset do the same for 6+ depending on the area you live in. Stupidly if you live in an isolated location you’re allowed a few more. Makes absolute sence to me

 

[Smellydog]

I was asked this on my last renewal.
My reply was:

No I don’t keep a record of my purchases. I do keep a record of rounds fired for each of my centre fire rifles.
She was ok with that

Did she ask to see the record?

 

[Shabz]

I’ve never been asked that sort of nonsense. What if you reload at your mates house? If you’ve got any bullets at all then they came from somewhere. If they aren’t written on your ticket then it’s likely that you’ve loaded them yourself! Balls to keeping records about that bollocks.

 

[trickie]

I’ve never been asked that sort of nonsense. What if you reload at your mates house? If you’ve got any bullets at all then they came from somewhere. If they aren’t written on your ticket then it’s likely that you’ve loaded them yourself! Balls to keeping records about that bollocks.

I don’t disagree.
My Rounds fired logs are for My records. If they would like a perusal there welcome

 

[Liveonce]

Is it Law, or is it Guildence? I think this is why some forces do what they do. Personally I thought it was Guieldence from the Home Office about the ownership of firearms and explosives? Spent primers are a good way of showing usage in my opinion and they take up very little room with the amount most shoot in the UK. Then keep a jar of the knackered brass, once it becomes unusable.

in what nearly 50 years of shooting and reloading I have never been asked by an FEO to keep records to prove the quantity of ammunition i am reloading or using. What’s next we write it on to our certificate.

Nothing in law that’s states I must keep such records.

 

[SDC7x57]

Agree with Liveonce above regarding any actual legal requirement to keep records. Our local FEO (really good guy) told me before he retired not to bother with a notebook. His comment was, 'anyone can write whatever they want in a notebook and it's virtually impossible to prove'. I just keep my punched out primers and my good brass that I intend to reload and that has always satisfied them up here. From what he said, they are required to see some level of use to fulfil the reason for having the firearm, and if you have not purchased any factory ammo, they ask about your reloading.

 

[Leec6.5]

Hi Guys
Hope you're all well.

Can i please ask how you guys record your home reloading data.
I been made aware to keep an accurate record for the FEO to inspect during his visit.

What do you guys use, is it a purchased manual or just a note book

Thanks in advance

You don’t need to keep records for the rozzers to inspect!

The only info I keep is load data and that is it!

 

[Cyres]

I have kept a reloading note book since acquiring my first CF.
It's divided into sections for each rifle.
I record base line info eg barrel length and COl. Also cases and case volumes. Bullet dimensions and twist rate preferences
Record of every round loaded for each calibre. I do this for my own records and should my FEO require evidence if reloading then I have it to hand.
I think it is good practice to keep reloading targets.
I also keep my load development targets. I use the target which RB recommended in his first book.

As far as I am aware there is nothing in law that says you must keep a record of your reloading activities.
D

 

[Yorkie]

in what nearly 50 years of shooting and reloading I have never been asked by an FEO to keep records to prove the quantity of ammunition i am reloading or using. What’s next we write it on to our certificate.

Nothing in law that’s states I must keep such records.

Compared to you i am a beginner at 40 years.

In all that time i have never been required to show any records with West Yorks. West Yorks have generally been quite sensible.

It never ceases to amaze me as to what some Forces are requiring.