Sako 85 ejection issue, dented case neck

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An FYI for all who claim the 85 does not do this:



Maybe it only happens when you shoot a proper cartridge? ;)
 
Well I have a whole box of empties from a zeroing session with mine (.375 so I trust it’s up to your standard of whats a proper cartridge?) and not one is dented? So it’s not a uniform issue with all of them.....
 
So it’s not a uniform issue with all of them.....

No, it is not a problem with all of them. But it is a problem with some.




My 30.06 is a case in point. But I did find a working solution:

 
If SAKO responds to this problem like Anschutz did when I said I didn't like the condition of fired cases, they will say. "Yeah? So what? Does the rifle feed? Extract? Eject? is it accurate?? Then what's the complaint?? Our rifles are designed to shoot factory ammunition, not handloads, so the denting of a fired case is of no concern to us."

Well. Ok. In my dealings with SAKO they have not been as grumpy as my 'merikan translation of Finnish, but you get the idea.~Muir
 
If SAKO responds to this problem like Anschutz did when I said I didn't like the condition of fired cases, they will say. "Yeah? So what? Does the rifle feed? Extract? Eject? is it accurate?? Then what's the complaint?? Our rifles are designed to shoot factory ammunition, not handloads, so the denting of a fired case is of no concern to us."

Well. Ok. In my dealings with SAKO they have not been as grumpy as my 'merikan translation of Finnish, but you get the idea.~Muir

You are not shooting Sako ammunition in your Sako rifle? You are not using Sako Optilock mounts? Perkele! You warranty void!
 
No, it is not a problem with all of them. But it is a problem with some.




My 30.06 is a case in point. But I did find a working solution:



Rotating the scope, smart work around but still not a solution.

Good thing you don't have a side parallax/focus knob or an asymmetric reticle.
 
If SAKO responds to this problem ... "Yeah? So what?

Sako techs flat denied there was a known issue when I called their factory. [it was a mission to find that phone number!]

They told me my extractor claw must be worn, buy a new one. I did. It made no difference.


Does the rifle feed? Extract? Eject? is it accurate?? Then what's the complaint?? Our rifles are designed to shoot factory ammunition, not handloads, so the denting of a fired case is of no concern to us."

That is the rub. Even on a diet of Sako factory ammo, it does not always eject. That has serious implications for follow-up shots.



It is a design issue. Pure and simple. Case extractor ram is at the bottom [6 o'clock] position of the retreating bolt. Extractor claw sits near11 o'clock position. A near vertical ejection of the spent case is inevitable. Machining differences between calibres and production runs will exacerbate this design flaw, sometimes.

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Well I have a whole box of empties from a zeroing session with mine (.375 so I trust it’s up to your standard of whats a proper cartridge?) and not one is dented? So it’s not a uniform issue with all of them.....
Not saying am 100 percent on this but I think it has to do with the type of scope you have on and the position of the turrets
I have 85 more n 308 with a s.b scope no issues at all
Have a a7 stainless in 243 with hawke endurance and the bottom of the turret caps all marked of the casing and sometimes depending on how fast you cycle the bolt the spentcasing falls back in do it slower and it pings out 🤷🏼
 
i recently bought a new sako laminate varmint in 204..hopefully this isn't a problem..would a rail over the ejection port not solve it if it was?
 
Sako techs flat denied there was a known issue when I called their factory. [it was a mission to find that phone number!]

They told me my extractor claw must be worn, buy a new one. I did. It made no difference.




That is the rub. Even on a diet of Sako factory ammo, it does not always eject. That has serious implications for follow-up shots.



It is a design issue. Pure and simple. Case extractor ram is at the bottom [6 o'clock] position of the retreating bolt. Extractor claw sits near11 o'clock position. A near vertical ejection of the spent case is inevitable. Machining differences between calibres and production runs will exacerbate this design flaw, sometimes.

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My 85 in .270 dents the neck of the case almost every time. I don’t reload, the deer doesn’t realise that there is “an issue” and I really don’t give a fiddlers fart.
Regards,
DG
 
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