Sako carbon wolf
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Deermanagement
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I went for the Carbon Wolf in 20", 6.5 Cr. Wanted to go lighter than what I've carried for near 20 years, a Tikka M590. Other than the weight, I may have gone Black Wolf however after carrying it a couple of times, I'm happy I went Carbon as once it's been fitted out with a scope, mounts and Mod, it's a little bit heavier than I anticipated. Gone with a Titanium over barrel with 80mm overhang so it balances and feels excellent.
Super accurate with the factory load I've tried and outstanding with the first load I've developed. Not sure of the longevity of the stock's soft touch finish (although it does feel real good) but looking forward to taking some beasts in the next couple of months, so happy to update you then.
Super accurate with the factory load I've tried and outstanding with the first load I've developed. Not sure of the longevity of the stock's soft touch finish (although it does feel real good) but looking forward to taking some beasts in the next couple of months, so happy to update you then.
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Wasn't going for the lightest, just something reasonable but certainly lighter than the heavy barrelled M590. Just had a pm asking a bit more so just weighed it and found it runs 4.9kg kitted out, full mag, sling, mod, scope, mounts. It is very nice although anyone who needs a flat shooting gun may find that the comb adjustment should have had an extra notch down. I had to accomodate best fit by using optilock rings one size higher than ideal.
Yes the carbonlight would be a fantastic choice but I'm lucky enough to have changed a few rifles in the last year or so and have a Finnlight in a larger calibre, again very nice. Btw..... likely to be the last change of rifles I'll ever make.
Ranger22
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I have handled both. The blackwolf is hefty as a bare unit, add scope, bipod, mod and it turns into a heavy lump I wouldn’t want to carry. The carbonwolf was my preferred choice before I handled it, very light but the feel of the rifle itself put me off. The pistol grip felt very unnatural to me. Worth an extra grand- not to me
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I was asked a couple of questions ref the CW and passed on the following for info :-
"Kitted out, sling, Swaro Z6i 3-18x50, optilocks, a 360g moderator, 5 rds in the mag, it weighs in at 4.9 Kg.
Like most Sako 85's it's accurate and I think this one will prove to be very accurate, maybe something to do with the calibre.
When I first picked it up, I wasn't 100% convinced by the ergonomics of the grip but the more I picked it up the better it felt and shooting of the bench it's been very comfortable and controllable. Sako should have accommodated the comb adjustment to go at least one notch lower as depending on on contours of the face, and how high a shooter holds their head to achieve a comfortable, "eyes level" position, it lack that extra bit of useful adjustmen downwards. I had to set up with Optilock high rather than medium to achieve best fit, rather than compromise head position. I would have preferred to have been able to use the medium rings but the comb does not go that low.
The stock finish feels really nice, non-slip and comfortable although I'm not sure how it will stand up to a hard life but saying that, I tend to look after my rifles and don't throw them around.
If you are looking to put a moderator on, I'd consider a moderator with a short overhang. I have a Larewnce Precision on the 20" CW with 80mm overhang but also have a .270 Finnlight, I think 22.5" with a Hardy Gen 6, again with 80mm overhang and this still feels good and balanced, not not quite as good as the CW"
Hope this helps anyone out...... don't discount the feel of the ergonomics, it's different and takes a bit of getting used too but also consider the range of comb adjustment, it needs a scope fitted to know if it does what you require.
"Kitted out, sling, Swaro Z6i 3-18x50, optilocks, a 360g moderator, 5 rds in the mag, it weighs in at 4.9 Kg.
Like most Sako 85's it's accurate and I think this one will prove to be very accurate, maybe something to do with the calibre.
When I first picked it up, I wasn't 100% convinced by the ergonomics of the grip but the more I picked it up the better it felt and shooting of the bench it's been very comfortable and controllable. Sako should have accommodated the comb adjustment to go at least one notch lower as depending on on contours of the face, and how high a shooter holds their head to achieve a comfortable, "eyes level" position, it lack that extra bit of useful adjustmen downwards. I had to set up with Optilock high rather than medium to achieve best fit, rather than compromise head position. I would have preferred to have been able to use the medium rings but the comb does not go that low.
The stock finish feels really nice, non-slip and comfortable although I'm not sure how it will stand up to a hard life but saying that, I tend to look after my rifles and don't throw them around.
If you are looking to put a moderator on, I'd consider a moderator with a short overhang. I have a Larewnce Precision on the 20" CW with 80mm overhang but also have a .270 Finnlight, I think 22.5" with a Hardy Gen 6, again with 80mm overhang and this still feels good and balanced, not not quite as good as the CW"
Hope this helps anyone out...... don't discount the feel of the ergonomics, it's different and takes a bit of getting used too but also consider the range of comb adjustment, it needs a scope fitted to know if it does what you require.
icerider
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After handling one in person I feel Carbonwolf is a way to go as eronomics are perfect and weight saving helps a lot. Also carbon stock is more rigid that should help out of box accuracy if you don't plan to do bedding in wooden/laminate stock. Finnlight II is actually even lighter and a bit less expensive, if you don't need adjustment in length and find the grip comfortable this could be way out. It's also cerakoted from factory. I'm considering my next rifle in 6.5CM and these are only two options I'm considering, wishing prices to be more reasonable though 
It sounds as if this is a "shooters rifle" rather than a mountain hunters rifle.
A very light rifle will never have quite the ergonomics of an adjustable, shaped stock and a heavier rifle will sit more inertly.
That Carbonwolf sounds a good choice for hunting that needs top marksmanship.
The next step up would be the full TRG M10, but not for hunters.
A very light rifle will never have quite the ergonomics of an adjustable, shaped stock and a heavier rifle will sit more inertly.
That Carbonwolf sounds a good choice for hunting that needs top marksmanship.
The next step up would be the full TRG M10, but not for hunters.
I wouldn't say never... not Sako but my rifle has Tactical stock with adjustable cheek raiser as well as spacer system with the same shape and ergonomics as the current Ftr Euro champs stock . Mine weighs 800 grams. Rifle with pm2 3-20 scope only weighs 4.1kg. One needs to have the rifle properly set up and try shoot it more or less free recoil even when hunting and she shoots very well even at range.
Recon a carbon wolf could be useable if properly bedded.
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Took mine for a walk again yesterday afternoon.....could have shot a number of roe but still happy to leave them a couple of weeks. Couple of Sika caught me out laid on a hillside amongst dome Roe and then half a dozen Sika emerged from a block of woodland with about 30 mins light left. They were lucky...... could have intercepted them as they moved across the field but I really needed to get home early so again, they'll have to wait.
Anyway.....the Carbon Wolf was a pleasure to carry, well balanced with the LP moderator and 20" barrel. May give it a whirl on the H&H indoor range next week as a friend has a couple of tickets, so all booked up
Anyway.....the Carbon Wolf was a pleasure to carry, well balanced with the LP moderator and 20" barrel. May give it a whirl on the H&H indoor range next week as a friend has a couple of tickets, so all booked up
Hi do you think the rifle would be light enough for free hand shooting I am only asking as there is a good possibility I will be going wild boar shooting next yearTook mine for a walk again yesterday afternoon.....could have shot a number of roe but still happy to leave them a couple of weeks. Couple of Sika caught me out laid on a hillside amongst dome Roe and then half a dozen Sika emerged from a block of woodland with about 30 mins light left. They were lucky...... could have intercepted them as they moved across the field but I really needed to get home early so again, they'll have to wait.
Anyway.....the Carbon Wolf was a pleasure to carry, well balanced with the LP moderator and 20" barrel. May give it a whirl on the H&H indoor range next week as a friend has a couple of tickets, so all booked up
Deermanagement
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It is. I could shoot mine freehand comfortably. At 4.9kg it’s not light but balanced and will feel lighter and steady to shoot moving target. I guess you would also be using a lighter scope than what I use, possibly an aimpoint, and either no moderator or a lighter mod than what I use.
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After buying a CW in 65Cr earlier last year and then "taking it for a walk on two occasions last winter, it will get a proper outing this week coming. I had visions of taking a nice stag with the first shot but need to take a couple of prickets sooner rather than later or maybe a cull stag, so it'll probably be nothing to write home about. Anyway, had some use with my old .243 M55 (Spring/Summer roe rife) in the last month or so, but time for a change to what I hope will be my go to Autumn/Winter rifle, accept for when the weather's poor 
Will post a couple of pics and hopefully add to the video collection
Will post a couple of pics and hopefully add to the video collection
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65Cr Carbon Wolf takes its first this morning. It’s the last rifle I’ll ever buy I’m sure but nice to start with a stag, not what I’d usually try to shoot but couldn’t resist, good light and a quick stalk into position all on video. Took a little back but clean enough keeping the shoulders intact for a good carcass. Hmmm... maybe I’ll go try for a rubbish roe buck that I know off this afternoon.
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Went over the other side this evening and stalked along a woodland strip and set up to watch a deciduous woodland bank on the left and a grassy valley in front of a conifer covered bank on the right.
i was hoping for a particular buck or one of the prickets using the grassy valley a couple of weeks ago. It wasn’t long before Roe began to appear both left and right, including a 6 pointer that should be left for another couple of years. He was safe but my only issue was the number of Roe gathering between us and the valley, our best chance of a pricket. Eventually we had 7 Roe out in front but fortunately they started to wander towards the valley which was a bit of luck as first a hind and calf left the conifers followed by a pricket. This was the moment to move, head to the woodland edge, out of sight of the sika and close the gap very very slowly as a couple of the Roe had laid up in full sight.
I decided at one point to head straight towards the Roe along the tall grass towards the base of the down land to avoid any lateral movement. As we slowly edged into sight of the valley, the Sika were nowhere to be seen.
there was however a patch of weeds, some 50 yards by 20 that was more than capable of hiding laid up Sika, so it was time to wait again.
After about 30 mins, a hind emerged from the weed patch some 200 yards distant. I knew that the pricket would likely follow, which it did behind another hind and calf. We were already filming and a waited for what seemed like an age for a broadside shot. It didn’t come but luckily the lead hind started to close the ground on us steadily but surely. Once they were into about 120yds, a steady sitting position off my usual twin sticks made for a tidy Low neck Shot, and the Sako had its second Sika of the day.
At the shot, deer exploded in all directions, including another pricket that had been laid up in the patch of weeds. The crosshairs settled as he stood for a moment at 200yds, but a quick glance showed very tall spikes, possibly a pricket we had seen a couple of weeks ago and one I had decided to leave given the opportunity, so the safety was replaced, happy with the stalk and shot for the evening and a relatively early night after dropping off at the chiller.
i was hoping for a particular buck or one of the prickets using the grassy valley a couple of weeks ago. It wasn’t long before Roe began to appear both left and right, including a 6 pointer that should be left for another couple of years. He was safe but my only issue was the number of Roe gathering between us and the valley, our best chance of a pricket. Eventually we had 7 Roe out in front but fortunately they started to wander towards the valley which was a bit of luck as first a hind and calf left the conifers followed by a pricket. This was the moment to move, head to the woodland edge, out of sight of the sika and close the gap very very slowly as a couple of the Roe had laid up in full sight.
I decided at one point to head straight towards the Roe along the tall grass towards the base of the down land to avoid any lateral movement. As we slowly edged into sight of the valley, the Sika were nowhere to be seen.
there was however a patch of weeds, some 50 yards by 20 that was more than capable of hiding laid up Sika, so it was time to wait again.
After about 30 mins, a hind emerged from the weed patch some 200 yards distant. I knew that the pricket would likely follow, which it did behind another hind and calf. We were already filming and a waited for what seemed like an age for a broadside shot. It didn’t come but luckily the lead hind started to close the ground on us steadily but surely. Once they were into about 120yds, a steady sitting position off my usual twin sticks made for a tidy Low neck Shot, and the Sako had its second Sika of the day.
At the shot, deer exploded in all directions, including another pricket that had been laid up in the patch of weeds. The crosshairs settled as he stood for a moment at 200yds, but a quick glance showed very tall spikes, possibly a pricket we had seen a couple of weeks ago and one I had decided to leave given the opportunity, so the safety was replaced, happy with the stalk and shot for the evening and a relatively early night after dropping off at the chiller.
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