Sako TRG 22 A1

[topscots1]

Contemplating purchasing a TRG 22A1 in 6.5 creedmoor.

I am torn between this and going cheaper tikka tac A1 which I had in 223 and functioned fine.

Any owners users or alternate recommendations accepted.

Rifle will be used to turn up at PRS occasionally when work allows, main use will target and steep ringing occasionally.

Alternative recommendations considered, I was going to go budget with a barreled action and chasis. I’m sure that option would shoot near enough as well.

However I’m fancying something unique, but with a reasonable resale value when I inevitably want to change in a year or threes time.

If by some miracle someone has a used one gathering dust drop me a message.

 

[Andy RV]

I’m a big fan of my TRG (green stock and phosphated barrel) in 308, however if I was spending TRG A1 money I may be swayed towards the Accuracy International? Either way they’re both impressive rifles.

Have you budgeted for a suitable / befitting scope?

 

[topscots1]

I’m a big fan of my TRG (green stock and phosphated barrel) in 308, however if I was spending TRG A1 money I may be swayed towards the Accuracy International? Either way they’re both impressive rifles.

Have you budgeted for a suitable / befitting scope?

The accuracy international rifles on paper are a contender. I have used most and want something different.

An ATACR will likely end up on top.

 

[One on top of two]

2021 model 6.5cm

 

[Ronin]

Trg in vision chassis …..

Or get T3 put in vision chassis

T3 will in my view cycle easier and be just as accurate

 

[scotch_egg]

I have only put a few rounds down range through the TRG A1. I was really disappointed with the trigger over the earlier TRG’s I have owned, it’s the same basic action with a new bolt handle just screws into the bolt body. The trigger had to be redesigned because there was an issue with the sear is adjusted to light by the end user causing it not to reset correctly when set light and and permanent damage would be caused. My last TRG was re-barreled in 6.5x47 by @Ronin and I must admit I did like that rifle but the AX action just tops it.

I can understand you wanting something unique but I can honestly say that the the Accuracy International AT action feels far superior and the tiggers can be adjusted to a decent weight. This is the same action used throughout the short action rifles so the AT, AX308 and the newer AT-X.

The AT-X is designed with competition in mind with the chassis mimicking the chassis’s developed by the niche US companies developing PRS race guns. A factory rifle does always seem to hold value far better than a custom build based on a remmington 700 footprint.

I’ve had most but still own an AX308 with a custom 6.5X47 barrel. It just feels so more solid than the Sako’s in all guises. I have also got your old TAc A1 .223 barrelled action in a Sako TRG stock with the older TRG trigger. It’s a nice foxing rifle and cheap practice calibre as I can reload for 40p a round. It gets expensive plinking any of the larger calibres when even the cheapest bullet is 40p before you add a primer and powder let alone brass prices.

If you really want to keep value in any investment buy secondhand in the first place.

The TRG action is so similar to the Tikka T3 that in reality the Tac A1 would be a worthwhile buy and there would be no loss in accuracy over either the more expensive rifles of Sako or Accurate international. At the end of the day it’s the nut behind the butt that makes the difference.

A Keeper turned up to a U.K. PRS comp with a factory Tikka Varmint in .243 and schooled the entire lineup of competitors with custom rifles in go faster calibres.

I know prices have gone up but there is a secondhand Tikka Tac A1 for sale secondhand that would be perfectly adequate.

If you really want something unique the Fix is brilliant but probably too lightweight and the reason I ended up with seeking a heavier rifle for target work. Still own it and won’t ever sell

I know that having a young family and shift work certainly get in the way of attending comps let alone informal gong ringing now days to have so much invested in my kit sometimes does feel a waste. I do hanker after a crotch rocket but after the most recent work accident the wife is putting her foot down, well I certainly can’t (excuse for glory shot of most recent metal work installed)

I even used my AX for a Chinese water deer last year to get some use out of it. Plus it’s so confidence inspiring it’s unreal.

So if @One on top of two is posting glory shots I’ll have to join in…

Sorry for long reply. As you know I’ve got time on my hands…

 

[One on top of two]

I’ve just had to look it up but I don’t realise the A1 is the folding stock version of mine . So mine doesn’t count .

 

[scotch_egg]

I’ve just had to look it up but I don’t realise the A1 is the folding stock version of mine . So mine doesn’t count .

They are a £5k investment and still the same basic action, barrel and trigger. With a different bolt handle bolted on the bolt body.

I prefer the standard TRG stock over the folding model. Far comfier. I’ve had the original folder as well.

And just to clarify the black rifle is a .223 tikka T3 in the photos I posted earlier in the thread.

 

[topscots1]

Not much love for the A1 it would appear. Fortunately I haven’t submitted the variation yet. Still waiting mon my sauer being collected by its new owner.

I may just have to swallow my hankering for something different and go with an AI.

The vision chasis and Tikka or Tikka/Howa and an MDT Chasis is also tempting.

They are a £5k investment and still the same basic action, barrel and trigger. With a different bolt handle bolted on the bolt body.

I prefer the standard TRG stock over the folding model. Far comfier. I’ve had the original folder as well.

And just to clarify the black rifle is a .223 tikka T3 in the photos I posted earlier in the thread.

The leg looks a sore one, hopefully the recovery is swift. The Q-fix is a cracking rifle, the dog cross a knock off version. I believe they have released a PRS version in the states. I’m sure it will take a while to get over here at likely twice the price.

Trg in vision chassis …..

Or get T3 put in vision chassis

T3 will in my view cycle easier and be just as accurate

The tikka option is still on the table. Meandering through till I can get the 1/1 variation Put in.

There has just been a price hike in the last few weeks and another likely in the near future.

A lottery win would solve all my problems, I would just have them all.

 

[scotch_egg]

For Sale: - Tikka T3x Tac A1 6.5 Creedmoor Rifle 24"

Hi, all, selling my Tikka T3X A1 6.5 Creedmoor, purchased from countryman of Derby, very well looked after and little use round county is 510. Have all the boxes and paperwork. The scope mounts are not included in the sale. £1500.00 OVNO

www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk

Would make life easy. You know what you are getting having owned one and the Tikka T3 is a true performer.

 

[palo]

Another option would be a new tikka supervarmint and put it into a chassis.
You would have the 2 stage trigger and a heavier barrel than the tikka tac a1.
Action and barrel would also be cerakoted stainless steel.
Keep the original stock and you would have complete rifle and chassis to sell again.

 

[Ronin]

Don’t discount a PSE Etac

There is a trend back towards traditional stocked (composite) rifles in the us

Folk finding they are able to shoot using a single bag for under rifke support is quicker for positional changes type stages over clipped in to arca (tripod or bag)

Food for thought

 

[Kevgun]

As good as the TRG is, it will have to shoot really well to shoot any better than a Tikka T3X Tac A1, admittedly mines on it's 2nd barrel, but does get a lot use, I have a Bartlein barrel on mine shoots 0.3 moa on a good day, I would love a Sako M10, but can't justify the outlay, maybe one day when I cash a pension in.

 

[MarinePMI]

Contemplating purchasing a TRG 22A1 in 6.5 creedmoor.

I am torn between this and going cheaper tikka tac A1 which I had in 223 and functioned fine.

Any owners users or alternate recommendations accepted.

Rifle will be used to turn up at PRS occasionally when work allows, main use will target and steep ringing occasionally.

Alternative recommendations considered, I was going to go budget with a barreled action and chasis. I’m sure that option would shoot near enough as well.

However I’m fancying something unique, but with a reasonable resale value when I inevitably want to change in a year or threes time.

If by some miracle someone has a used one gathering dust drop me a message.

If you're not going to be shooting a lot of comps, as much as it pains me, I'd say go for a Tikka of some flavor, in a chassis (KRG BRavo is very "TRG'ish" in fell and balance). IMHO the TRG is over priced these days for what you get. The Tikkas usually shoot just as well, albeit with a single stage trigger. TRG's haven't been updated to keep up with current top end rifles (swappable barrels, side folding chassis, barrel shroud for NV clip-on's, etc.), so they shouldn't be (IMHO) commanding the price they are asking these days. They're just too outdated. Those negatives aside, I will say, that the TRG's are lighter, and feel more nimble in the hand than their competition.

Personally, I have an AI AT-X (TRG's competition). Great rifle, well balanced, but still fairly heavy. It's greatest benefit is the changeable barrels, so if you're not shooting comps, or not wanting to have .308, .243 and 6.5CM barrels for it, it's kind of a moot point. The AT-X does manage recoil better than most factory rifles, but again, unless you're shooting a lot off props/obstacles under par times, it won't make that much of a difference if your fundamentals are sound.

But from what you have described, I think @Ronin is giving you some pretty sound advice.

 

[Ronin]

Fundamentals

Plus

Sound advice last post

 

[plumber01]

I was in the same situation a couple of years ago, and was comparing the AI against the TRG as that was what i narrowed it down to. Mine was intended for range/ comp work. In the end after trying out both I went for the AI, the main reason was the swap-able barrel, and i shoot left handed ( actually found AI do make limited LH rifles) Also the pistol style grip seemed more comfortable on the AI shooting prone. Also the AI bolt stops when the mag is empty. They are both tough military guns and are intended for abuse so you wont go wrong with either, however I would think the AI might keep its valve, and if you end up firing strings of hot rounds its nice to know you can get another barrel put on it in 5 minutes and not too excessive in price. Good luck

 

[simgre]

200 quid per Sako mag is a game changer for me. But then, AI would be my shout.

 

[MarinePMI]

200 quid per Sako mag is a game changer for me. But then, AI would be my shout.

To be clear, there are now two different Mags. The CTR version (which doesn't fit the TRG, and is partially plastic), and the TRG mag (which fits either the CTR or TRG bottom metal, and is all steel). The CTR mags are on par (price wise) with the AICS or AW/AX mags. At least here in the US (CTR mags as I understand it, are made in Canada, partially in support of the Tikka Government contract rifles).

 

[long_range_rob]

I’ve had a T3 TAC A1 and it was great, I also have a TRG 22 (Green/phosphate) which is also great. I’m intending to do a bit of PRE after watching Sundays comp at Bisley and from what I can see either would be excellent, maybe not as competitive or cool as the AI offerings but I suspect 308 will be a load cheaper than 6XC of 6x47 etc. plus I don’t expect to win but just have some fun and hopefully be in the top 50%

 

[Ronin]

You will be hampered with recoil management using a 308 - but you will enjoy this type of shooting

It’s addictive