Shooting in wind, online shooting school

[Norway]

This years online shooting school will focus on doing windcalls.

I'm pulling it all the way back in order for everyone to understand, and you can simply leave the series when it's no longer relevant to you. The two first episodes at least should be relevant to anyone on the hill.

This is the first episode that basically puts emphasis on the most important success factors. If you don't have this focus, you will not have success

 

[Norway]

Here is the second part, scaling it down to stalking rifles and secondfocalplane scopes

 

[ejg]

This years online shooting school will focus on doing windcalls.

I'm pulling it all the way back in order for everyone to understand, and you can simply leave the series when it's no longer relevant to you. The two first episodes at least should be relevant to anyone on the hill.

This is the first episode that basically puts emphasis on the most important success factors. If you don't have this focus, you will not have success

I saw this video recently and thought it was made very well. A few days ago I was dialling in for a grey crow at 435m on the top of a tree with my 22-250 and remembered the natural hold part of the video... wind was a bit over 13mph or 21km/h. It was the only shot I took that day and put a smile on my face. Due to the field/ hedge and trees i only used 10mph wind not 13,2 measured. Wind was right to left.

crow fell to the lower left branch.

edi

 

[sauer]

Thank you Thomas

Love your content as always !


Paul

 

[Norway]

Due to the field/ hedge and trees i only used 10mph wind not 13,2 measured. Wind was right to left.

That's a fairly sophisticated windcall, shows some understanding. It is what this years films eventually will lead to - a better understanding of wind as opposed to just looking at a Kestrel/ anemometer. For the moment I'm doing "basic mountains" for the travelling hunter (plus I need the fitness!).
There used to be a Danish online calculator for architects to work out windload on buildings using garden features like various hedges and trees. It is sadly gone, was nice put a reasonable estimate on what terrain features would do.

For interested readers, you can look into parts of the hard science of it here Windenergie-Daten der Schweiz
If you want to go deeper WebMET - The Meteorological Resource Center

 

[ejg]

That's a fairly sophisticated windcall, shows some understanding. It is what this years films eventually will lead to - a better understanding of wind as opposed to just looking at a Kestrel/ anemometer. For the moment I'm doing "basic mountains" for the travelling hunter (plus I need the fitness!).
There used to be a Danish online calculator for architects to work out windload on buildings using garden features like various hedges and trees. It is sadly gone, was nice put a reasonable estimate on what terrain features would do.

For interested readers, you can look into parts of the hard science of it here Windenergie-Daten der Schweiz
If you want to go deeper WebMET - The Meteorological Resource Center

Quite a few aerospace engineers ended up in architects work of large buildings, could be part of their education. My son always tells me of the horrible effect of a large aircraft hangar next to shannon runnway to crosswinds when he lands there. The field I am shooting in the picture is in an area that our club releases pheasants in and I know it well. A few weeks back I dropped a fox there at 552m with the same rifle but no wind. I use a dried muddy patch in the field at 510m to check and adjust the drop chart. Temperture in Ireland is not that important. Summer ~15 winter ~11...
edi

 

[gixer1]

Brilliant vid again Thomas - love these vids, very informative and I now use the naturals point of aim thing…

Thanks for posting.

Regards,
Gixer

 

[Norway]

This film shows how to gauge wind into basic classes and how to hold off for that wind. If you master 100m you should also have a very high degree of success at this

 

[Norway]

Final episode this season, now it's all hunting. Next season will likely be more details on windcall.

 

[User00053]

Thank you Thomas, very interesting and thanks for posting.

 

[HS300]

Great videos Thomas, I watch them all. Thanks for all your efforts.

Do you do any training courses, like the ones from your DVD's? Would love to attend one-day!

 

[Norway]

Nope, sorry. No time.

 

[Bowland blades]

That's a fairly sophisticated windcall, shows some understanding. It is what this years films eventually will lead to - a better understanding of wind as opposed to just looking at a Kestrel/ anemometer. For the moment I'm doing "basic mountains" for the travelling hunter (plus I need the fitness!).
There used to be a Danish online calculator for architects to work out windload on buildings using garden features like various hedges and trees. It is sadly gone, was nice put a reasonable estimate on what terrain features would do.

For interested readers, you can look into parts of the hard science of it here Windenergie-Daten der Schweiz
If you want to go deeper WebMET - The Meteorological Resource Center

Its still a thing that's available and used globally. Did a course years ago on it Pascals was the unit of measurement not MPH not that it matters as they were using it for different purposes which is "wind load" , ( pascals was the hardest bit for me ) , wind calls shooting are enough understanding of contour effect, direction of twist and direction via the clock face not calculating " Pressure on fixed structure" wind shooting is more watching a stick float down a trout stream it has no real " pressure force" as it just gives itself up to the flow , moving itself around the rocks etc following the flow . Practice much and drastically reduce distances on large quarry like deer that are quite capable of moving while the bullet is in flight leaving you with a wounded beast that's already a long way off, if you get another chance at it there will be no time to re-range let alone make an accurate wind call. A crow is hard to wound when hit with a medium calibre CF rifle but yeah can happen Personally a long shot on deer is 1. does it really need shooting today? 2. is the wind playing nice today? At 2 that means i dont need to measure said wind with a device

 

[Norway]

I don't think we disagree.
But when you say "deer that are quite capable of moving while the bullet is in flight leaving you with a wounded beast" the mistake have been made prior to the shot, so I would put it differently.
Bullet flight-time is usually 0,2-0,6 seconds and that timeframe alone isn't large enough to cause that scenario. If flight time cause a running deer, you have poorly assessed the situation and should never have taken the shot!
That's no different than from driving a car - you don't crash into the car in front of you because he braked. YOU didn't keep your distance and pay attention, even worse if you also drive with bad brakes and tires!

Basic risk management. There's no way to remove all risk and accidents, even when doing activities that are considered perfectly safe. (check your nearest hospital if you want examples...)
Shooting and hunting is no different. The situation change and risk change... when the wind is from left, deer is facing left (good) and then facing right (not so good) etc. I graphically detail why here (appr time 15:40):

 

[Bowland blades]

I don't think we disagree.
But when you say "deer that are quite capable of moving while the bullet is in flight leaving you with a wounded beast" the mistake have been made prior to the shot, so I would put it differently.
Bullet flight-time is usually 0,2-0,6 seconds and that timeframe alone isn't large enough to cause that scenario. If flight time cause a running deer, you have poorly assessed the situation and should never have taken the shot!
That's no different than from driving a car - you don't crash into the car in front of you because he braked. YOU didn't keep your distance and pay attention, even worse if you also drive with bad brakes and tires!

Basic risk management. There's no way to remove all risk and accidents, even when doing activities that are considered perfectly safe. (check your nearest hospital if you want examples...)
Shooting and hunting is no different. The situation change and risk change... when the wind is from left, deer is facing left (good) and then facing right (not so good) etc. I graphically detail why here (appr time 15:40):

Hussain bolt is a lot slower than a deer , how far can he get out the blocks when the starting gun goes ? Quite a fair distance ! I well remember the first deer i wounded . A roe crossing a forrest track, yet stood for a bite at the far side clearing grasses . Aim was tight behind the shoulder well rested and comfortable rest within the doe box , as the sear was tripping something spooked it and the bullet struck with that horrible noise of the belly thump! it ran forwards to the trees then U turned and ran back the way it came from.
Sat and waited , knowing injured deer are best not pushed and best left to settle and stiffen up before tracking .
Ended up lucky as the strike took out the kidneys and my deer was not quite back in the forrest canopy bled out and stone dead after my wait .
Let us assume If Hussain Bolt can do 9 seconds approx from the blocks 100 mtrs a medium deer can do say half that ? The start is one of the faster bits of the 100 mtr sprint, its not a thought by the athlete its a reaction . Time of flight isn't given as much consideration as it deserves either , shooting mcqueens you often enough can spot the final round out the group fired at a stationary target but one that was likely motionless as the shooter committed and increased pressure through to the trigger break, result a hole in the paper high of the aim point . Once i commit to the trigger pull taking up pressure , i am pretty much set on nothing but a clean break on the sight picture. Pretty much like watching a wind flag in LR comp it drops between cycles and the shooter just reacts with a timely break .

 

[norcan]

@Norway

Impressive stuff!

These are extremely informative, well-presented and professionally-produced videos; thanks for posting them.