Shotkam gro pro etc
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I’ve got the shotkam, picked it up 2nd hand , cheaper option is aim cam glasses I had these but found them clumpy once you put on ear defenders as well, got some good footage and only around £200 new
Ttocs
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I looked at all the options for my shotguns - ended up with a ShotKam as it’s the neatest all round solution. It’s made a big difference to my shooting once I reviewed the shot footage I could see exactly where I was falling down.
If you’re after one for the rifle, other than a rear add on like the Pard, whilst I know they’re out there, I’ve no experience with rifle cameras.
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If you’re after one for the rifle, other than a rear add on like the Pard, whilst I know they’re out there, I’ve no experience with rifle cameras.
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I was looking at the caddiebuddy.com camera mounts and womdering if anyone had used them and if it was on go pros or similar as 1 mount fits shotgun and rifles etc and could be used on both
Also i thought shotkam were a lot more than 200 and would they fit a rife a also not looking to record throuh scope merely above it
Also i thought shotkam were a lot more than 200 and would they fit a rife a also not looking to record throuh scope merely above it
Use TRIGGERCAM
Not cheap but works
Not cheap but works
caorach
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The problem with the GoPro is that it is very wide angle and so things that are far away are really very small indeed. At rifle shooting ranges I'd guess you aren't going to see much in terms of detail. Also the GoPro isn't great in low light, you might be different but that is when I do most of my stalking, so that might be a big disadvantage.
Just be aware that 250 yards is a long way away for any camera. Even with my 500mm lens (boosted to 700mm with the 1.4x teleconverter) on a full frame DSLR you'd struggle to see any meaningful detail.
Admittedly I have limited experience of GoPro's, but they are designed to be worn "on body" to show action in the immediate vicinity of the wearer.
Freightdog
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I have a shotcam and it's great for clays, (will be trying it on birds next week) but that's at normal ranges of up to, what 50yds? Great pictures and very easy to review footage. The automation on it is brilliant too, no need to stop or start filming just fit and forget (it starts when it feels you've closed the action, so you'd have to figure out a way to start it by 'bumping' the rifle or something).
I've tried a GoPro on targets under floodlights, with the camera about 3ft from the target, and that wasn't clear enough to pick up the shot holes. The lens just can't gather enough light to reproduce a clear picture. Also the zoom isn't moving the lens at all, it's just cropping the frame down and 'blowing' it up, so your pixel size goes up and clarity goes down. (Just look at you 4k TV from really close and suddenly it all looks blocky)
I've used the ATN X Sight that has a recording facility, but at 32x zoom I could barely make out the target at 100yds, let alone where the shots are going, and that was daytime.
If you think how big a spotting scope is, or even a 56mm rifle scope, and the picture you can see through that at 200yds, you can start to see how big the lens would have to be on a camera to get a good shot at extended ranges. Think paparazzi camera lens!
That's just my experience with various cameras. I could try out the shotcam on my rifle next week if I go out, I'd be interested to know how it works out too.
I've tried a GoPro on targets under floodlights, with the camera about 3ft from the target, and that wasn't clear enough to pick up the shot holes. The lens just can't gather enough light to reproduce a clear picture. Also the zoom isn't moving the lens at all, it's just cropping the frame down and 'blowing' it up, so your pixel size goes up and clarity goes down. (Just look at you 4k TV from really close and suddenly it all looks blocky)
I've used the ATN X Sight that has a recording facility, but at 32x zoom I could barely make out the target at 100yds, let alone where the shots are going, and that was daytime.
If you think how big a spotting scope is, or even a 56mm rifle scope, and the picture you can see through that at 200yds, you can start to see how big the lens would have to be on a camera to get a good shot at extended ranges. Think paparazzi camera lens!
That's just my experience with various cameras. I could try out the shotcam on my rifle next week if I go out, I'd be interested to know how it works out too.
mn87
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There’s a reason why shotkam is expensive…it works. At shot gun range you will struggle to find anything better especially with it being barrel mounted. If you actually want to see anything at rifle range (>100 yards) employ a camera person with DSLR and a big lens, see @willie_gunn post above
mchughcb
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First of all this is SD. We do not film the death of animals or allow anybody any chance of any criticism of our ability to hunt or to shoot.
However if you do decide to film yourself killing stuff with a shotgun then I suggest the following.
1. If you kill stuff closer than 10m than a Sony FDR X3000 mounted to your earmuffs opposite to your trigger finger maybe one option.
2. If you kill stuff further than 10m away a shotkam 2018 is the best, followed by a tactacam. Otherwise the field of view a gopro, sony or equivalent is just too far to make out any detail in the death of an animal.
In this video you will see the difference between a shotkam and the sony. The sony is only good for very close targets.
mchughcb
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Here's a better comparison of the two types of camera. One mounted to my ear muff and the shotkam on the barrel.
I have considered a shotkam in the past as I have struggled to make progress with my shotgun Shooting. Does anybody know if there is a clayground or shooting School where you can pay for a session using a shotkam as a training aid? I would benefit from both training and the footage as well. Might be a good way to trial one before shelling out the cash.
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Ttocs
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I’ve seen adverts for hiring a ShotKam for the weekend. Unfortunately I can’t remember where - possibly Edinburgh Rifles.
in the end I just bought one and it helped enormously - a couple of sessions on pigeons and I could see my problem clearly. Turns out I wasn’t following the line of the bird correctly but a quick change back to a 12g SBK’s from my 20g ou sorted that. ShotKam - great investment - I now his most of what I shoot at - just think of the saving on wasted cartridges and money spent on days shooting. You can always sell the ShotKam when uoure done as the a]second hand market is strong.
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in the end I just bought one and it helped enormously - a couple of sessions on pigeons and I could see my problem clearly. Turns out I wasn’t following the line of the bird correctly but a quick change back to a 12g SBK’s from my 20g ou sorted that. ShotKam - great investment - I now his most of what I shoot at - just think of the saving on wasted cartridges and money spent on days shooting. You can always sell the ShotKam when uoure done as the a]second hand market is strong.
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