slugs for boar

[boar & deer]

has anyone on here in the UK got 12g slug on there licence conditioned for boar? I've had it for the last few years and now kent have said I can't have it and no one in the UK has ever had slugs conditioned for boar ? I'm sure that's not right ?

 

[levigsp]

I have slugs for ALQ.

 

[Triggermortis]

20g slugs for boar and humane dispatch on mine with a 7 shot auto

 

[enfieldspares]

Have you shot any boar with these slugs? Does your FAC show purchases of such slugs?

Post the Cullen Enquiry (Dunblane) it's a "use it or lose it" FAC regime.

If you can show purchase and use you'll have no issues. If you can't then, post Cullen, Kent are acting perfectly reasonably.

Sorry it isn't more optimistic a reply. But it's pretty much as it is nowadays.

 

[Lateral]

has anyone on here in the UK got 12g slug on there licence conditioned for boar? I've had it for the last few years and now kent have said I can't have it and no one in the UK has ever had slugs conditioned for boar ? I'm sure that's not right ?

They are talking nonsense. I used to have the condition, and many others do. Send them this link, info listed under "shotguns"

http://www.wild-boar.org.uk/pdf/WildBoar_shooting.pdf

 

[paul o']

Yup Under AOLQ + 8 shot auto

 

[Lateral]

kent have said I can't have it and no one in the UK has ever had slugs conditioned for boar ? I'm sure that's not right ?

Post the Cullen Enquiry (Dunblane) it's a "use it or lose it" FAC regime.

Kent are acting perfectly reasonably.

If they were refusing because of lack of use, maybe, but they aren't, they are claiming NO ONE has the condition !

 

[Triggermortis]

Have you shot any boar with these slugs? Does your FAC show purchases of such slugs?

Post the Cullen Enquiry (Dunblane) it's a "use it or lose it" FAC regime.

If you can show purchase and use you'll have no issues. If you can't then, post Cullen, Kent are acting perfectly reasonably.

Sorry it isn't more optimistic a reply. But it's pretty much as it is nowadays.

no need to show purchase, my last lot are home loads and anyway if you buy a hundred there is no time limit on using them ?
i can’t show purchase for any of my ammo does that mean I’m likely to loose my rifles come renewal?

 

[enfieldspares]

No. But in your circumstance you can demonstrate you homeload and or have purchased one hundred. That's not unreasonable at all.

And I've never know that an issue with a rifle held on any FAC conditioned for AOLQ. As you rightly imply one hundred rounds can cover a year, two year's, three year's stalking needs.

But can the OP show a need? Can they show they've been and shot boar... or been out and blanked... or previous use of their slug authority to purchase or homeload such?

Only the OP can answer that and the picture will be clearer. I agree the "no one has it" isn't a valid refusal... as if the OP can show use it's an invalid refusal reason as in itself "no one" is then clesrly incorrect.

 

[finnbear270]

Sounds like another F.E.O. that wonders which end Mr Bullet comes out of.

 

[kennyc]

has anyone on here in the UK got 12g slug on there licence conditioned for boar? I've had it for the last few years and now kent have said I can't have it and no one in the UK has ever had slugs conditioned for boar ? I'm sure that's not right ?

of course its not right! you have just said you were conditioned for slug/boar ergo someone has had slugs conditioned for boar...YOU!

 

[enfieldspares]

Surely Mr Bullet Head? LOL!

 

[Triggermortis]

Out of interest, with a cyl choke and using winchester super x 666g 20g slugs i got touching groups off a bench rest at 75m, but i have to say i was shoked at the kick from these, i'm talking a bruised shoulder after a dozen rounds at the target

 

[urx]

Yep sighted in my m2 with slug/scope a while back and thought ‘ its a semi with a soft butt so how hard can it be’
i recommend not trying to use a 12g prone rifle style
more punishing recoil than rifles as youd expect

 

[enfieldspares]

Years ago I tested the Colin Greenwood designed FEG Police Gun. These were rifle sighted, twenty inch barrel, side-by-side boxlock ejectors.

They would print both barrels into four inches at fifty yards. You see them now and again at auction.

Fabarm also do rifled chokes (for slug expressly not woodcock as some rifled chokes are intended for) for their side by side ejector.

 

[simonl]

(for slug expressly not woodcock as some rifled chokes are intended for) for their side by side ejector.

rifled chokes intended for woodcock? Can you explain?!!

 

[enfieldspares]

Yes, sometimes woodcock. Walked up. Or in thick cover.

French shotguns didn't have the legal definition of a shotgun as in UK of having to be smoothbored.

So some French shotguns were rifled (raye'e) in the right barrel and smootbore (lise'e) full choke in the left barrel for woodcock (becasse).

Google Manufrance rayee and there's many threads. I've a Manufrance Model 28E but that's a standard 16 Bore BLE S/S smoothbore. Albeit self-opening.

Anyway. The idea is the rifled barrel gives maximum spread at a very short range. As it spins the wad. Giving better odds on a zig-zagging bird. More so than even a true cylinder.

The left barrel (although some French guns were rifled in BOTH) is normal smooth bore as explained.

Manufrance made them and even some others too. Some sources say these guns were also used for rabbits bolted by ferrets.

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[Gameking]

I have slugs for ALQ.

What is your primary quarry that you had slug granted for Deer / Fox ? (that the ALQ condition is attached to )

Can all the others who say that they have ALQ with slug do the same please .

 

[Triggermortis]

Humane dispatch and boar

 

[Heym SR20]

A friend up here has 12g slugs for humane dispatch and AOLQ, and his son has his 16 Bore drilling with permission for slugs as well.