Solid slug.

[Saracen666]

Hi people.
Does anyone have solid slug on their FAC, and if so, what circumstances do they use it?
I spoke to someone recently, who claimed solid slug was safer for humane dispatch, which I find highly unlikely, though I'm happy to be corrected.
All comments welcome.

 

[bowji john]

I do

For two and three gun target and exped safety

Should be suitable for HD I would have thought

Does have significant penetrating power though, so beware inadequate backstops

J

 

[Saracen666]

Over penetrating is my main concern.
I don't shoot practical shotgun, but wondered what advantages, if any I'd have above using a centrefire on deer, etc, humane dispatch, or otherwise?
Thanks for the reply.

 

[Eddie P]

I do

For two and three gun target and exped safety

Should be suitable for HD I would have thought

Does have significant penetrating power though, so beware inadequate backstops

J

I've carried a shotgun for exped safety, but the barrel length annoyed me, I've since changed to a rifle in 375 with a 20 inch barrel.

 

[Tim1989]

highly unlikely you would be allowed slug for dispatch,

I have slug for target use only

I believe you can be allowed them for wild boar sometimes


if you want something bigger for dispatch then use buckshot , at close range though pretty much everything acts like a slug

 

[Saracen666]

highly unlikely you would be allowed slug for dispatch,

I have slug for target use only

I believe you can be allowed them for wild boar sometimes


if you want something bigger for dispatch then use buckshot , at close range though pretty much everything acts like a slug

My thoughts exactly. I'd argue a centrefire rifle round could be argued to be safer than solid slug. Obviously every shot is taken on its own merits.

 

[Eddie P]

My thoughts exactly. I'd argue a centrefire rifle round could be argued to be safer than solid slug. Obviously every shot is taken on its own merits.

Solid slugs are like big 22lr and the associated ricochet potential.
I carried one for polar bear protection because I can run the gun fast and the target would be approaching in a straight line at close range. And pretty much no risk from ricochets due to the remote nature of where I was.

 

[enfieldspares]

I spoke to someone recently, who claimed solid slug was safer for humane dispatch, which I find highly unlikely, though I'm happy to be corrected.

I can't think so in some circumstances as it is too slow to break up and fragment inside the animal yet speedy enough to come out in one piece the other side and bounce around off whatever else solid it hits behind. So "getting your own back" in a worst case.

 

[nun_hunter]

I had solid slug both 12 and 410 for humane dispatch in certain circumstances. I couldn't find 410 slugs in the UK and didn't shoot enough to warrant reloading.

If you've seen solid slug hitting ballistic gel then you'd see that penetration isn't great at all. The slug deforms quickly and slows dramatically so it doesn't penetrate far. For the majority of HD I'd use a shotgun with normal pellets if I can get close enough as it'll have the same effect with less ricochet risk and less mess too.

 

[Saracen666]

I had solid slug both 12 and 410 for humane dispatch in certain circumstances. I couldn't find 410 slugs in the UK and didn't shoot enough to warrant reloading.

If you've seen solid slug hitting ballistic gel then you'd see that penetration isn't great at all. The slug deforms quickly and slows dramatically so it doesn't penetrate far. For the majority of HD I'd use a shotgun with normal pellets if I can get close enough as it'll have the same effect with less ricochet risk and less mess too.

That's what I thought. I was considering applying for it, as it may come in handy, but then that's not really 'good reason'.

 

[nun_hunter]

That's what I thought. I was considering applying for it, as it may come in handy, but then that's not really 'good reason'.

I gave the situation I had experienced and would likely again. I was only allowed to purchase/possess 20 at a time and even that was more than plenty.

Some people have a rifle granted for a stalk once a year so not much different to getting a box of slugs to last 5 years or so.

 

[Tazz]

Solid slugs are like big 22lr and the associated ricochet potential.
I carried one for polar bear protection because I can run the gun fast and the target would be approaching in a straight line at close range. And pretty much no risk from ricochets due to the remote nature of where I was.

Yes in those circumstances with the largest land predator on the planet coming towards you thoughts of “ ricochets” may not be at the forefront of your decision making

 

[Saracen666]

Yes in those circumstances with the largest land predator on the planet coming towards you thoughts of “ ricochets” may not be at the forefront of your decision making

... Very true.

 

[Heym SR20]

Solid slugs are effective on deer and boar up to about 70 odd yards. But a rifle is much much better tool for the job.

Slugs have their place when a shotgun is the only gun available for whatever reason - usually due to legislation, and there are plenty of jurisdictions where shotguns are the only gun that civilians can possess.

There is myth that shotguns are less lethal than rifles. Certainly a shotgun with shot is 40 ish yard gun, slugs its 100 ish, but most rifles are a 1,000 yard weapon for reasonably accurate fire.

I did try to get slugs to use in my combination gun. It was a NO from police Scotland. They were happy to authorise acquisition of an Einstecklauf so I could use it as a double rifle.

 

[Triggermortis]

highly unlikely you would be allowed slug for dispatch,

I have slug for target use only

I believe you can be allowed them for wild boar sometimes


if you want something bigger for dispatch then use buckshot , at close range though pretty much everything acts like a slug

Some forces do grant slugs , kent have,.410g for use in a pistol for dispatch and 20g for use in a sec 1 shotgun for boar and dispatch,plenty of factory ammo for both available at around £1 a pop and reloading supplies are easily available.

 

[Saracen666]

Some forces do grant slugs , kent have,.410g for use in a pistol for dispatch and 20g for use in a sec 1 shotgun for boar and dispatch,plenty of factory ammo for both available at around £1 a pop and reloading supplies are easily available.

I'm in Sussex, and was thinking more running slug through one of my 12 bore Section 1 semi auos.

 

[Triggermortis]

I can’t speak for sussex but kent have authorised slugs for dispatch but as with all things variation request in my experience it’s a postcode lottery as to if your application is successful , anecdotally I have been told that in recent times however some forces are simply not granting some requests for certain types/calibres of firearm or ammunition full stop.

 

[Scuffy]

I have solid slug for humane dispatch and boar

 

[nun_hunter]

I'm in Sussex, and was thinking more running slug through one of my 12 bore Section 1 semi auos.

Im in Sussex and had it granted. It'll come down to whether you have a good reason for humane dispatch using that particular gun and why slug in that gun is better than standard shot or using a different firearm.

 

[Saracen666]

I have solid slug for humane dispatch and boar

I was thinking solid slug for boar out of a semi auto, would be perfect. I've yet to shoot boar. What county are you with?