Speed limit for twin cab?
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Druid
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Oh the joys of landrovers
Ah yes, but ours is 48 years old, not many double cabs that age about, or jap 4x4's come to think of it
i thought the speed limit was flat out balls out ??? 
You think thats confusing, just hang a trailer behind any 4x4 and over 30 miles from base you are in Tacho country if using the trailer to convey goods for your work although there is an odd exception.
But at least pulling a trailer then the lower limits apply, 60mph on motorways and 50 on normal roads, thats about as fast as a Defender wants to go anyway especially with some weight on the back.
If anyone wants to discuss that in more detail then start a new thread rather than derail this one please.
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But at least pulling a trailer then the lower limits apply, 60mph on motorways and 50 on normal roads, thats about as fast as a Defender wants to go anyway especially with some weight on the back.
If anyone wants to discuss that in more detail then start a new thread rather than derail this one please.
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Chanty Wrassler
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Utter nonsense
There is some truth in this, somewhere, but it's very confusing and difficult to find an explanation.
The tramp
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Easy. If the pickup is used for any form of commercial use, AND the gross weight of truck and trailer exceeds 3500kg, you'll need it to be fitted with, and use, a digital tacho. (Unless pre may 2006 and already fitted with a disc type)
It then comes under EU rulings for driving time, and working time directive, and you'll also need records for any other driving/work/rest for the previous 28 days, either on the digi card or a logbook.
But, there are exemptions
vehicles used by agricultural, horticultural, forestry, farming or fishery businesses for carrying goods within 100km of where the business is based,
And vehicles that are used to carry live animals between a farm and a market, or from a market to a slaughterhouse where the distance is less than 50km, there are others too, if in doubt, check with DVSA/VOSA, Better safe than sorry.
Chanty Wrassler
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The Gov.uk website
https://movingon.blog.gov.uk/changes-to-tachograph-rules-for-local-journeys-2/ suggests that the 100 km radius also applies to the transfer of livestock farm - market - abattoir
"Thenew regulation increases the journey distance for exemptions from 50km to 100kmfrom the operator’s base. This will apply to:
· Vehicles or vehicle trailercombinations with a maximum weight of 7,500kg which are:- Used to carrymaterials, equipment or machinery for the driver’s use in the course of theirwork, and when driving the vehicle is not the driver’s main activity.- Used tocarry goods and are propelled by natural or liquefied gas or electricity.
· Vehicles used to carry live animalsfrom farms to local markets or from markets to local farms or slaughterhouses."
TheOldGamey
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I saw the traffic policeman out on the estate today, so asked him the law regarding these double cabs, and the speed limit.
If it is a normal double cab, and it must have a back window, and seats in the rear, no problem 70mph--- 60mph as normal, if it does not have a back window, and rear seats then the speed restrictions apply.
If it is a normal double cab, and it must have a back window, and seats in the rear, no problem 70mph--- 60mph as normal, if it does not have a back window, and rear seats then the speed restrictions apply.
Now I was told, by a vosa man, that if carrying own goods for business purposes then no tacho needed. So according to him I could carry tools / equipment, goods not paid for yet on a trailer without tacho.
RP,
Yet towing a catering trailer with your fryers and stock in it has to.
Nothing you have in it has been sold.......
Stan
It also must have an unladen weight not exceeding 2040kgs otherwise it does not fall within the definition of a dual purpose vehicle and will be subject to the lower speed restrictions. The traffic policeman only knows half the law!
Chanty Wrassler
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I think he was mistaken. I think delivering your goods to a customer falls outside the various exemptions. (A brickie taking a load of bricks to a job could fall within the exemptions while a builder's merchant delivering the same bricks in the same type of vehicle trailer combo would fall outside)
Ieazo
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Think of it as transporting materials to a job site. I've got a wee bit of first hand experience of this when one of our site guys was returning a groundhog (trailer welfare unit) to the rental company. If he'd been taking it to his house no tacho req'd but as it was from a job to the rental depot tacho req'd. Likewise, take materials to a job then work and return to the yard no tacho, drop materials off for others at any other sites en route and a tacho is req'd.
Thats more or less the crux of it.
I emailed Nissan GB to try and find out the 'unladen weight' of my Navara.
They initially replied that it was the same as the ‘gross vehicle weight’ – 3210kg. This was obviously incorrect and I asked them to look at it again.
Reply received today stating that the unladen weight of my Navara is 2035kg and they included the VIN number so someone at Nissan has this time done some research as I had only given them the registration number.
Good news as at 2035kg it fits the definition of a dual purpose vehicle i.e. not exceeding 2040kg.
They initially replied that it was the same as the ‘gross vehicle weight’ – 3210kg. This was obviously incorrect and I asked them to look at it again.
Reply received today stating that the unladen weight of my Navara is 2035kg and they included the VIN number so someone at Nissan has this time done some research as I had only given them the registration number.
Good news as at 2035kg it fits the definition of a dual purpose vehicle i.e. not exceeding 2040kg.
Orion
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Did you ever doubt that it would?
If it didn't they wouldn't be selling (m)any on the UK market.
It's very strange how identical vehicles from the same manufacturer can have different specifications (especially relating to unladen, gross vehicle, and payload weights, depending on where in the world they are sold!
Orion
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The first email probably related to the complete vehicle, the second (lighter weight) to when the chassis snaps and the back half falls off.
I thought it was just related to the 'over-stressed' chassis on vehicles fitted with aftermarket air suspension in Australia?
Apparently not!
Oh no, happens to a lot it seems, and now pathfinders. Nissan have lowered the price they give you now if you hand it back as well. Quite a serious problem apparently.
