Starting out .223 Reloading .... is now as good a time as any ?

Not wanting to highjack but I'm in similar boat but my flavour of choice is 204, which generally speaking factory is harder to source with far less choice - would that make people more inclined to start reloading? Cheers
Yes. On a cartridge like that, most definitely.

As to .223? I'll keep my mouth shut. This is coming from a guy who runs a Dillon 750 and Autodrive, so yeah, I'll never "save" enough money to justify the cost on economy. Now convenience, and time? That's a whole other story/calculation. And components are much easier (and cheaper) to come by here in the US. Heck, my range gave me 5,000 pieces of spent 223 brass, just for helping out around the range (RSO) and fixing a few people's screwed up guns.

Reloading can save money, but only if you consider your time "free". Some do, some don't. Some reload to support a hobby, some reload as a hobby.


I'm still working my way through all this .223 and 9mm range brass. Probably have enough until I kick the bucket, TBH.
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BTW, I do agree that if vermin are the intended quarry, reloading does make more sense. Small targets require accuracy. Accuracy that may or may not be available in factory ammo, depending on what your rifle prefers. I'd suggest that it be better to reload (even if it comes out as the same cost), so that when you need to take care of said vermin, you're ability to do so isn't tied to ammunition availability.

JMTCW...
 
Reloading is environmentally friendly as we reuse the case @ times, before recycling it, I hope no oneputs spent brass in the landfill bin👿

As for when to start, if you enjoy it you should have started at least @ years ago.
 
BTW, I do agree that if vermin are the intended quarry, reloading does make more sense. Small targets require accuracy. Accuracy that may or may not be available in factory ammo, depending on what your rifle prefers. I'd suggest that it be better to reload (even if it comes out as the same cost), so that when you need to take care of said vermin, you're ability to do so isn't tied to ammunition availability.

JMTCW...

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Got given some .308 by my RFD to try last night as he’s sold his .308, he’s letting me have it for not very much at all, geco 170 gr soft point. A real bugger they’re banning lead as it’s the most accurate factory I’ve tried!

Pretty much matched it with 2155 sierras and 44.3gr of bench mark (top end work up to it folks).D3ACC5EB-A35F-4135-928E-C477AE5339F7.webp
 
Cheers for all the input fellas,

As mentioned in my original post, I had all the gear years ago and sold it ... just looking through my left overs and found some primed 9mm brass and bullets from back when pistols were surrendered.....

As the .223 is a working tool mainly for foxing the Lee Classic Loader looks like it could well be spot on for my needs, saving brass from factory ammo at present so will need to get bullets, primers and powder as suggested, 1 tub of powder making just short of 300 rounds will last me quite a while.

The search begins, I like the independence of not depending on the availability, or lack of availability, of factory ammo and having to go shopping around for it .
 
Well I bit the bullet and purchased some gear, picked up a Lee Classic Loader in .223 from Sportsman Gun Centre £41 posted, 1000 x 55gn Speer from Livens and some N133 powder and 700 Primers from between two local RFD's

Also picked up a box of 55gn PPU @ £15 both to try and for the brass

Not counting the cost of brass at this stage works out at 45p/round (PPU 75p/round) and a cheap enough set up without spending hundreds as in the past when I shot lots more reloads.

Will Get some more powder and primers and enough to sort out the 1000 bullets purchased which should see me OK for quite some time (years),

thanks for all you input and comments gents
 
Well I bit the bullet and purchased some gear, picked up a Lee Classic Loader in .223 from Sportsman Gun Centre £41 posted, 1000 x 55gn Speer from Livens and some N133 powder and 700 Primers from between two local RFD's

Also picked up a box of 55gn PPU @ £15 both to try and for the brass

Not counting the cost of brass at this stage works out at 45p/round (PPU 75p/round) and a cheap enough set up without spending hundreds as in the past when I shot lots more reloads.

Will Get some more powder and primers and enough to sort out the 1000 bullets purchased which should see me OK for quite some time (years),

thanks for all you input and comments gents
Great - look forward to seeing some great results from the Lee loader,
Amazing little kit that it is.
 
You might want to try the SMK 52gr as they can be bought in boxes of 500.HPS are selling them. Hornady 50gr andc52 gr are good too and normally available too.
Hope it helps
 
Well I bit the bullet and purchased some gear, picked up a Lee Classic Loader in .223 from Sportsman Gun Centre £41 posted, 1000 x 55gn Speer from Livens and some N133 powder and 700 Primers from between two local RFD's

Also picked up a box of 55gn PPU @ £15 both to try and for the brass

Not counting the cost of brass at this stage works out at 45p/round (PPU 75p/round) and a cheap enough set up without spending hundreds as in the past when I shot lots more reloads.

Will Get some more powder and primers and enough to sort out the 1000 bullets purchased which should see me OK for quite some time (years),

thanks for all you input and comments gents

Keep in mind, your time is the most valuable component to reloading ammo.

With the PPU price and availability, I'd stick with that unless you have something special in mind like using heavy for caliber (77-90 grain) bullets, but these in turn require fast twist barrels which are not usually found on factory rifles.
 
I reload 53gn vmax for foxing and reckon on around 38p a round, components where bought a while ago and I shoot around 50 foxes a year, I have enough to last me years in .223 so definitely cheaper than factory
 
I reload 53gn vmax for foxing and reckon on around 38p a round, components where bought a while ago and I shoot around 50 foxes a year, I have enough to last me years in .223 so definitely cheaper than factory
i used to pay under £1 for premium factory ammo in 243 , i bet dealers dont pay that little today , things change! Factory Barnes copper bullets only ( not loaded rounds ) are £ 1.20 each in 100 grain now
 
I reload 53gn vmax for foxing and reckon on around 38p a round, components where bought a while ago and I shoot around 50 foxes a year, I have enough to last me years in .223 so definitely cheaper than factory
That’s the game plan here, whilst some of the factory ammunition such as PPU is relatively cheap and relatively accurate it will never go down in price or be as reliably accurate as a tuned reload.
I changed scopes yesterday to a Sightron 2.5-17.5 x 56 for the longer ranges and had another zero session, firstly with the remainder of a box of 55gn federal ammo to get on paper at 25m and 50m to save the old legs, and then with homeloads to get sub 1/2 inch at 100m Which I know are spot on at 200m from previous results.
Will knock up another batch of 20 rounds with the federal cases which should see me ok for a couple of weeks as like yourself maybe taking similar number of fox during the year.
 
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That’s the game plan here, whilst some of the factory ammunition such as PPU is relatively cheap and relatively accurate it will never go down in price or be as reliably accurate as a tuned reload.
I changed scopes yesterday to a Sightron 2.5-17.5 x 56 for the longer ranges and had another zero session, firstly with the remainder of a box of 55gn federal ammo to get on paper at 25m and 50m to save the old legs, and then with homeloads to get sub 1/2 inch at 100m Which I know are spot on at 200m from previous results.
Will knock up another batch of 20 rounds with the federal cases which should see me ok for a couple of weeks as like yourself maybe taking similar number of fox during the year.
wait a while till all this war thing finishes . after ww2 there was vast amounts of extra powder sold off cheap and of course we wont get much notice of when Poo-tin and his crew pack in so those small rifle primers , brass and powders will be in quite an over production . Even if our government doesn't allow it sold to the pubic here prices are based on global supply
 
i used to pay under £1 for premium factory ammo in 243 , i bet dealers dont pay that little today , things change! Factory Barnes copper bullets only ( not loaded rounds ) are £ 1.20 each in 100 grain now
Yeah and the beauty of reloading is you can Taylor the round to the gun, I’ve looking at switching to copper but think I’ll let the price come down first
 
I’ll let the ban come in first then, I was looking at some load development for my .243 for roe but man it’s expensive
nope ! The bullets fired will always be your smallest investment of the day and every one fired should leave something behind a minimum value of at least 10x the investment in that bullet when seeking deer
 
I've successfully used Sierra 52g matchking in my 223.
My 22PPC loved them too.
Can buy 500 boxes from HPS for £164.
Worth a look...
 
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