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Quote;Also how does impacting the bullet tip set off an otherwise untouched primer with no other physical interference with the case head?Quote;
or what HAS been said,, but simply ignored.

???

I am confused....what am I ignoring?

TURNBOLT described an event; ER referred to it and implied it was impossible, but he had added/presumed the condition of no interference which indeed made it impossible. I pointed out that TURNBOLT hadn't actually stated there was no interference...

Does that make sense now? Or did I misread the sequence entirely?

I have no reason to think TURNBOLT was lying about it, and so was looking for reasons which would explain the phenomena he described.

Any ideas, or do you think TURNBOLT was mistaken?

The only way I can imagine that a primer could be fired from inside by tapping the bullet into the case would be if a stainless tumbling media pin was stuck in the flash hole. Unlikely of course...but then again there are a couple of reports of primers firing when dismantling a round with a kinetic hammer....

Alan
 
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???

I am confused....what am I ignoring?

TURNBOLT described an event; ER referred to it and implied it was impossible, but he had added/presumed the condition of no interference which indeed made it impossible. I pointed out that TURNBOLT hadn't actually stated there was no interference...

Does that make sense now? Or did I misread the sequence entirely?

I have no reason to think TURNBOLT was lying about it, and so was looking for reasons which would explain the phenomena he described.

Any ideas, or do you think TURNBOLT was mistaken?

The only way I can imagine that a primer could be fired from inside by tapping the bullet into the case would be if a stainless tumbling media pin was stuck in the flash hole. Unlikely of course...but then again there are a couple of reports of primers firing when dismantling a round with a kinetic hammer....

Alan


I was referring to this Quote; I agree that with a cleaning rod up one end making it look like a spear gun and no bolt in the other the rifle becomes a bit like Oscar Wilde's horse...dangerous at both ends.quote;
and this,,
untouched primer with no other physical interference with the case head?
Turnbolts post was not even posted at that time and has no bearing on the ops problem as its a completely different scenario.

as for tumbling pins stuck in flashholes,,,,,and other "what ifs" I'm surprised you can bring yourself to squeeze the trigger.
:lol:
 
Primers don’t seem to be that sensitive when impacted from the wrong side. I’ve (And others too) deprimed dozens of cases with live primers using a Lee Univeral die.
Ken.
 
Primers don’t seem to be that sensitive when impacted from the wrong side. I’ve (And others too) deprimed dozens of cases with live primers using a Lee Univeral die.
Ken.

Yes Ken, I have had to push out live primers with the Lee universal too. I always try and slowly ease them out rather than use any impact to shift them though...and I still wear my safety glasses, do it at arms length and hold my breath!

Presumably the tripod/anvil being tougher and chunkier spreads the load more than the thinner softer cap which allows the pressure to be concentrated? The rate of impact would also make a difference I suppose.

Alan
 
I was referring to this Quote; I agree that with a cleaning rod up one end making it look like a spear gun and no bolt in the other the rifle becomes a bit like Oscar Wilde's horse...dangerous at both ends.quote;
and this,,
untouched primer with no other physical interference with the case head?
Turnbolts post was not even posted at that time and has no bearing on the ops problem as its a completely different scenario.

as for tumbling pins stuck in flashholes,,,,,and other "what ifs" I'm surprised you can bring yourself to squeeze the trigger.
:lol:

I typed out a witty response and it disappeared into the ether so we will have to make do with this one.

Sorry still clear as mud as to what I simply ignored.

My post#53 quoted and responded to Edinburgh Rifles' post #40 which in turn quoted and responded to TURNBOLT's post#37

You post#58 quoted my post #53 with the bit of ER's post #40 but was actually referring to my post #14? Is that right?

My post #14 quoted and responded to Kes' post #13. Having posited the extremely tenuous possibility of setting off the primer by a stainless pin from the inside (i.e no bolt required) it then went on to use that scenario to set up the "Dangerous at both ends and uncomfortable in the middle" joke.

The joke backfired (pun?) evidently in more ways than one...I attributed it to Oscar Wilde and it was actually one of Ian Fleming's epigrams.

Misattributions and tenuous "what if" scenarios aside, I was concerned from the outset that more information should be forthcoming before any helpful solutions were offered. I had alarm bells ringing which in part proved justified as it turns out, by the twist in the tale of #59! Who saw that coming?

Alan
 
thanks to all members help in this matter but i think alan got it right in line one post#2 i think at £20 it was well worth it checked rifle and bolt when i got home it cycled 5 rounds remmy 75 grn flawlessly cheers trev
 
What !!!
Your RFD charged you £20 to remove it ???? or did you give him £20 as a gesture of good will ?
I didn't get involved in this post but just sat back and watched with incredulity at some of the remarks.
Some of the posters posted exactly the action I would and have taken and have done many times over the years, I'll not say which but believe me it is very safe and simple.
 
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I think the worry that Hussar went through over this incident was well worth £20 to do away with it.
He will have learnt a lesson for the future and any form of education is well worth £20, just think how many £20's he will save from now on.
If in doubt 'Full length Size' every time.
Some RFD's may have done it free if you were a regular customer to help retain your custom, a good deed is often worth the cost of 12 months advertising ;-)
 
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???

I am confused....what am I ignoring?

TURNBOLT described an event; ER referred to it and implied it was impossible, but he had added/presumed the condition of no interference which indeed made it impossible. I pointed out that TURNBOLT hadn't actually stated there was no interference...

Does that make sense now? Or did I misread the sequence entirely?

I have no reason to think TURNBOLT was lying about it, and so was looking for reasons which would explain the phenomena he described.

Any ideas, or do you think TURNBOLT was mistaken?

The only way I can imagine that a primer could be fired from inside by tapping the bullet into the case would be if a stainless tumbling media pin was stuck in the flash hole. Unlikely of course...but then again there are a couple of reports of primers firing when dismantling a round with a kinetic hammer....

Alan


ffs sit on yer hands for a while.

I'm not in the slightest bit interested in anything about turnbolts post,[no offence Turnbolt] It has no bearing on Hussars op.

I'm not going to waste any more of this lovely sunny day on any futile dick swinging games you wanna play.

arguing on the internet is like competing in the "special olympics" you might win ,,,, but you're still retarded.

I'm off to bang some 300 yard gongs, bye and have a nice day.
 
ffs sit on yer hands for a while.

I'm not in the slightest bit interested in anything about turnbolts post,[no offence Turnbolt] It has no bearing on Hussars op.

I'm not going to waste any more of this lovely sunny day on any futile dick swinging games you wanna play.

arguing on the internet is like competing in the "special olympics" you might win ,,,, but you're still retarded.

I'm off to bang some 300 yard gongs, bye and have a nice day.

No dick swinging here...well apart from posts #61 and #63 perhaps :)

Just genuine confusion regarding your comment that I ignored something.

Lovely weather to be out on gongs, I envy you. I am stuck in the forge for the next few days...typical...no doubt be raining again when I am on site and installing.

Alan
 
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