Swapping beef burgers for venison

[Freeforester]

I'm not sure how much the carbon maths adds up here but nice to know they're using venison.

Think about it, if it was comparable in terms.of diet if the cattle were grass fed, they're going from fewer larger runinants to more smaller ruminants. Smaller animals have a higher surface area to volume ration thus proportionally respire more per kg of meat thus more carbon and CH4 released (let's just suspend the fact that everyone forgets about the carbon cycle unless its emissions from human respiration/metabolism). They've also switched a concentrated production system with fewer vehicles to get beef to slaughter than lots of wild deer brought in in smaller numbers. Once processed the infrastructure will be similar. Not seeing where the carbon savings are unless there's some green washing going on

Would be interested to see which figures they've used.

Wouldn’t we all!

 

[Dunwaters]

Am I too cynical to think this has more to do with the rise in beef prices rather any eco bumph they want to try and con us with

Yes. We moan about the low price of venison but we moan about any attempt to put it in mainstream circulation too.
Get it out there.

 

[sauer]

I dont think he's moaning about it being put out there .... just the cynical circumstances that allude to carbon ethical meat but timing would suggest its more to do with goodnold pricing / costs

 

[CookM]

Whilst l like a beefburger of quality,l find my go to ,and my daughter's ,is a venison burger produced from roe l stalk for someone else.
I dont have time,or kit to produce as nice as these.
Bambi burgers have been a long time favourite.

 

[sauer]

Whilst l like a beefburger of quality,l find my go to ,and my daughter's ,is a venison burger produced from roe l stalk for someone else.
I dont have time,or kit to produce as nice as these.
Bambi burgers have been a long time favourite.

Beauty in eye of beholder and taste buds of the taster....
Doesn't matter if the burger was cast via some wanfango burger press or of simply rolled and pressed out by hand .....
If it stops you for a heartbeat whilst your eating and makes you go " bu55er me thats damn fine "

Then its summit to be proud of and show off

Paul

 

[DevonRifle]

I'm not sure how much the carbon maths adds up here but nice to know they're using venison.

Think about it, if it was comparable in terms.of diet if the cattle were grass fed, they're going from fewer larger runinants to more smaller ruminants. Smaller animals have a higher surface area to volume ration thus proportionally respire more per kg of meat thus more carbon and CH4 released (let's just suspend the fact that everyone forgets about the carbon cycle unless its emissions from human respiration/metabolism). They've also switched a concentrated production system with fewer vehicles to get beef to slaughter than lots of wild deer brought in in smaller numbers. Once processed the infrastructure will be similar. Not seeing where the carbon savings are unless there's some green washing going on

Would be interested to see which figures they've used.

I’m think you might be missing the point here. Deer are out there already and not put there by man so removal of them has a positive effect on the environment and a byproduct is the meat produced from reducing their numbers, hence a positive effect. Beef is bred by man to produce food and wouldn’t have been there otherwise so it has a negative effect on the environment.

 

[tomhunter]

beef verses venison burgers I have not meet any one who prefers venison ! I always put plenty of back fat in mine and it does improve them, and I still cannot fined a decent venison mix some of the butchers add pork , but it seems to defeat the object any ideas ?

 

[ABL]

£7.50 for a pack of four quarter-pounders.

I don’t (currently) sell cooked, ready-to-eat, food. If I did, I'm guessing it would be around the £7.50 mark for a single burger in a roll.

A local pub has my burgers on their menu and they're around £16, but with sufficient good quality accompaniments to make a decent meal out of it.

Is that pure venison or do you add pork fat to the mix?

 

[VSS]

Is that pure venison or do you add pork fat to the mix?

No added animal fat, no gluten, no allergens

 

[sauer]

No need for additional pork fat etc in burgers

Paul

 

[VSS]

beef verses venison burgers I have not meet any one who prefers venison ! I always put plenty of back fat in mine and it does improve them, and I still cannot fined a decent venison mix some of the butchers add pork , but it seems to defeat the object any ideas ?

Good venison burgers are infinitely better than any beef burgers. But poor venison burgers and poor beef burgers are as bad as each other.
I initially tried using premixes, quite a few different ones, but none of them passed the taste testing stage.
Now I mix my own seasonings etc, and frequently get feedback from customers along the lines of "absolutely the best burgers ever!".

 

[tomhunter]

I’m pleased to hear a success great! I expect it’s a secret recipe or could share it with us

 

[sauer]

If your doing alot of deer ...therefore lot of burgers you get fed up so experiment
For.burgers i mince coarse and once
For sauasages i mince fine and mix hard and well till sticks like sh1t to a blanket

One well used flavour profile believe it or not is "Broon sass burgers " hp sauce has its own spices etc and make a great venny burger

Fruit goes well with game another well used is cranberry jelly mixed thru mince .. another great venny burger

And like the broon sass try instead caramelised onion chutney or relish thru yer mix

And for the purists just plain venison with salt and pepper ...use salt at 2% and pepper at 1%

I also use a gluten free rusk as binder

Paul

 

[SussexSteve]

beef verses venison burgers I have not meet any one who prefers venison ! I always put plenty of back fat in mine and it does improve them, and I still cannot fined a decent venison mix some of the butchers add pork , but it seems to defeat the object any ideas ?

You’ve not tried my venison burgers then

 

[diaolo]

I also use 100% venison, sometimes adding some coarsely chopped cilantro.

Cooked in salt, they're excellent!

 

[User00056]

UK Stadiums swap beef burgers for venison

Fuel prices through the roof.
Labour costs up some 8%.
Fertiliser prices astronomical.
Servicing, maintenance, and repair costs increased.
Feed costs up 37%

Hence beef prices are increased across the board.

So UK Stadium caterers stop buying UK beef in favour of the cheaper alternative, and try to spin it to look as though they're doing the planet a favour?

And the poor old UK farmer yet again suffers a kick in the teeth.

Or is it just me?

 

[375win]

Switching from farmed beef to wild venison confuses two very different supply chains. Farmed cattle are managed and renewable, whereas wild deer are a finite population that cannot sustainably meet mass demand. Treating wild game as a scalable substitute risks overharvesting, ecological imbalance, and ultimately undermines both animal welfare and sustainability. It’s a short‑term gesture framed as carbon reduction, but in reality it’s neither practical nor sustainable

 

[shakey jake]

Switching from farmed beef to wild venison confuses two very different supply chains. Farmed cattle are managed and renewable, whereas wild deer are a finite population that cannot sustainably meet mass demand. Treating wild game as a scalable substitute risks overharvesting, ecological imbalance, and ultimately undermines both animal welfare and sustainability. It’s a short‑term gesture framed as carbon reduction, but in reality it’s neither practical nor sustainable

seeing the number of deer in the uk is rising, that seems a long way off.
thats if its wild venison

 

[User00056]

Switching from farmed beef to wild venison confuses two very different supply chains. Farmed cattle are managed and renewable, whereas wild deer are a finite population that cannot sustainably meet mass demand

And once Levy UK realise this, just watch the import of farmed venison go through the roof.

 

[375win]

seeing the number of deer in the uk is rising, that seems a long way off.
thats if its wild venison

Based on what science, exactly? Yes, yes — we’ve all heard the line about ‘more deer than since the Middle Ages,’ as if there was a drone census in 1234. Even if modern numbers are higher, any decision to cull deer in a specific area should be driven by ecological need, not by the demand for burgers. Venison can only ever be a by‑product of responsible population management, not the justification for it.