great in theory but I have a £650 alpex and £3k + Swarovski I want to swap on the same rifle so not really a case of being cheap 
Swapping scopes between rifles
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great in theory but I have a £650 alpex and £3k + Swarovski I want to swap on the same rifle so not really a case of being cheap Jim Hutton
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I wouldn't risk swopping scopes and expect the zero to be maintained.
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No me either tbh.
I know plenty who do it and report that there is no loss of zero...fingers crossed it works for me as well...
Up until I started using the Signature XTR rings I was using Signature Zee rings which have a slot machined into them that is clamped up. These most definitely returned to zero when removed & refitted - one of my rifles has 3 different scopes I use on it & never had any issues with loss of zero when swapping between them. The key is to have datum points that are fixed so each time you put the scope back on it is mechanically held in the same place. Alas the Signature Zee rings aren’t a good fit on the picatinny rails I’ve got so are restricted to use on weaver bases instead which in turn don’t allow the use of a brass catcher for the empties when I’m taking multiple shots from a highseat or in the dark! - maybe I should look for a weaver rail
No, not operator error. Off a bench with bags, torque wrench, and a proven load at 212yds (see 4 shot group below). I will be check zeroing before going for live quarry!Would the one stray shot not be more likely operator error? If it was me shooting I’d put it down to that anywayI’ve just got an ATN X sight 5 and been wondering about switching between rifles so this thread is timely.
Fair enough. I have to ask where the DCAL ruler came from?
I assumed you were in NI when I saw itI use leupold and swap at least 5 days scopes and Nev and thermal from rifle to rifle but I have had it where I put the wrong profile in and or have not had the front mount say in the rail I used to be a sceptic but after 5 years I don’t even think about it throw the day scope on throw the thermal on I even got a falcon scope in leupold ring put it back on the 17 hornet and head shot a hare at just shy of 300 yards I found once you get out of you he’d and trust the kit / system it’s easy and repeatable some people just want it to fail from the start so they can’t say intoldI tried this a while back between my 22.250 & .22 but had the opposite experience of many others on here.
Leupold quick release rings & bases so (whilst not the best that money can buy) certainly not cheap & decent enough quality. Whilst it was simple to set the scope profiles & to switch between rifles I missed a fox at around 175m (22.250) early on in my experiment & lost that nights hunting as I stopped shooting due to not knowing where shot had gone (yet another example of the importance of safe backstops!). On range checking at 100m a couple of days later the POI was approx 4” high
Now…. the big question that I asked myself was what had caused this shift? Profile settings were still the same (& correct one selected!), scope appeared to be mounted correctly (although through repetition the locking levers never seemed to fully engage/grip at exactly same point or ‘torque’) or had I simply made an arse if it & pulled the shot compounding this shift? At the end of the day the fact that I couldn’t firmly establish a cause led to me personally developing a complete lack of confidence in exactly where my round was going to land post swaps & binning the idea. Whilst a miss is not the end of the world, not having 100% confidence over POI/zero when pulling the trigger was completely unacceptable to me (as I’m sure others would agree).
Final point that has also been mentioned was cost. By the time you’ve bought decent QR mounts (with the base systems for 2 rifles) you’re already a good way to the cost of another dedicated scope for your second rifle? Anyway…… just another view point.
You but are also the people that tell you anything but glass is rubbish
Scott
Hi Scott, glad to hear that you find it reliable & that you’ve had no problems. Sounds like you are using the QR weaver mounts which look a lot sturdier than the 2 piece fixed bases that I opted for? Wish I’d gone for that option at the time tbh. To be fair though I would like to think that I’m certainly not one of those who “wanted them to fail” from the outset & really liked the concept (otherwise I wouldn’t have bought them in the first place). I would however fully agree that when it comes to quick release systems it’s possibly very much a head game too.
I have worked for years in occupations/environments where I have had to be 100% reliant on knowing my kit & having explicit confidence in it & its abilities. With hindsight though this was ironically probably the biggest issue in my case as, if I’d persisted with them I might well have built trust back up but, once the seed of doubt was sown I personally couldn’t reconcile the idea of continuing to use them at the risk of another potential miss/unintended POI with a high powered round.
It’s good to see folk taking the time to share so many different experiences though & hopefully the OP is finding the reading useful in formulating his own views. It’s one of the best aspects of the SD in my opinion….. where else could you gain access to so much knowledge from real time, like minded users
You raise an excellent point about confidence ...any doubt plays on your mind and there is nothing worse then not trusting your kit.Hi Scott, glad to hear that you find it reliable & that you’ve had no problems. Sounds like you are using the QR weaver mounts which look a lot sturdier than the 2 piece fixed bases that I opted for? Wish I’d gone for that option at the time tbh. To be fair though I would like to think that I’m certainly not one of those who “wanted them to fail” from the outset & really liked the concept (otherwise I wouldn’t have bought them in the first place). I would however fully agree that when it comes to quick release systems it’s possibly very much a head game too.
I have worked for years in occupations/environments where I have had to be 100% reliant on knowing my kit & having explicit confidence in it & its abilities. With hindsight though this was ironically probably the biggest issue in my case as, if I’d persisted with them I might well have built trust back up but, once the seed of doubt was sown I personally couldn’t reconcile the idea of continuing to use them at the risk of another potential miss/unintended POI with a high powered round.
It’s good to see folk taking the time to share so many different experiences though & hopefully the OP is finding the reading useful in formulating his own views. It’s one of the best aspects of the SD in my opinion….. where else could you gain access to so much knowledge from real time, like minded users
100 percent I wasn’t having a dig at all so do apologise if it came across like that but one thing in the shooting world I’ve found is the people that don’t like change ie digital scopes modular rifles or pic rails and qd mounts etc think they know best all the time and anything that’s doesn’t suit them is rubbish you get you standard gun does the job don’t mess kind of guys and the tinkeres which I am and like I said above confident is key I remember the earlier days going to qd mounts you’d miss something and in your head straight away what you’ve changed is the problem it took a fair while to gain the confidence same when I moved over from nv to thermal I hated a thermal rifle scope where as now I use a thermal scope more than anything else and like I said above in my experience the one that often moan that something doesn’t work for them either have the wrong idea of how it works or even take the time to do the research or even read the Manual at the end of the day what works for you works for your situation but don’t be scared to play about with stuff in your ability it’s how we progress and learnHi Scott, glad to hear that you find it reliable & that you’ve had no problems. Sounds like you are using the QR weaver mounts which look a lot sturdier than the 2 piece fixed bases that I opted for? Wish I’d gone for that option at the time tbh. To be fair though I would like to think that I’m certainly not one of those who “wanted them to fail” from the outset & really liked the concept (otherwise I wouldn’t have bought them in the first place). I would however fully agree that when it comes to quick release systems it’s possibly very much a head game too.
I have worked for years in occupations/environments where I have had to be 100% reliant on knowing my kit & having explicit confidence in it & its abilities. With hindsight though this was ironically probably the biggest issue in my case as, if I’d persisted with them I might well have built trust back up but, once the seed of doubt was sown I personally couldn’t reconcile the idea of continuing to use them at the risk of another potential miss/unintended POI with a high powered round.
It’s good to see folk taking the time to share so many different experiences though & hopefully the OP is finding the reading useful in formulating his own views. It’s one of the best aspects of the SD in my opinion….. where else could you gain access to so much knowledge from real time, like minded users
Scott
I wanted to do the same thing I bought sports match hop 92 quick release mounts of the back of 260 rips yt
I put it on my cz 452 Zeroed my scope at the range I took the scope off put it back on and it was cock on zero so I did again and it was good and I did again and it was good
I proffed it from I forget where but not NIFair enough. I have to ask where the DCAL ruler came from?
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