Swarovski rail system - is this the future?

[Markfox]

One can twist the scope in rings to align the up down movement with the plum line of the rifle. With a rail mounted rifle you get what you get.
Rail scopes are a thing of the past as I see it, most germans who have one can't wait to get rid of them. As for recoil proof... just look at second hand scopes on e-gun with rails, most are drilled by hand sideways through and pinned to get them to hold.
Anyone can buy what they want, I would not want one although initially the idea does sound good.
edi

i think you confusing the newer rails that Swaro , zeiss and S&B offer with the older type from 20-30 + years ago


how do you allign a scope up and down by twisting the scope in the rings ? Wouldn't the cross hair be on the pish to one side ?

Ive always kept the cross hair perfectly Horizontal which aids accuracy at distance

 

[mchughcb]

Yes you are getting confused with the old prism system. Swarovski makes the best rail imo. As long as you have quality rifle that the mounts have been put on straight there should be no problems. Shooting past 500m should also be OK with the amount of MoA adjustment these days.

 

[ejg]

i think you confusing the newer rails that Swaro , zeiss and S&B offer with the older type from 20-30 + years ago


how do you allign a scope up and down by twisting the scope in the rings ? Wouldn't the cross hair be on the pish to one side ?

Ive always kept the cross hair perfectly Horizontal which aids accuracy at distance

Do you know anything about mechanical manufacturing? now look at the manufacturing process of all the components that can lead to scope cant, look at the tolerances in these production steps, look at worst case scenario etc. it is almost impossible to have a scope 100% mounted . If so it is luck.
Most people will not notice and most rifles have crooked mounted scopes on them so for the average shooter a rail will do. My guess is that 99% of scope users have said no to rails and rightly so. Just a Euro over engineered over priced product.
You can mount a ring mounted scope perfectly straight on any rifle mount combination with lower manufacturing tolerances leading to a cheaper better end result. For a rifle smith a rail is of course easier to mount.

edi

 

[mchughcb]

Hell of a lot easier. No ring marks when you sell it and pulling your hair out as the scope slips when you fire your 300 Weatherby. I don't know the tolerances Swarovski has when they mill out the rail but by George it has to be better than putting your crooked stock on the table and a level on your scope as you clamp down your rings.

 

[ejg]

Hell of a lot easier. No ring marks when you sell it and pulling your hair out as the scope slips when you fire your 300 Weatherby. I don't know the tolerances Swarovski has when they mill out the rail but by George it has to be better than putting your crooked stock on the table and a level on your scope as you clamp down your rings.

You see, you did not understand. It is not only the tolerance of the scope. It is a combined tolerance between scope, rifle, mounting system. Just put a mount onto an old Mauser or have a closer look at the ones that are out there, most are not drilled straight. Great to be able to compensate with rings in the end.
Some scopes don't even have the crosshairs running in line with the internal mechanics, meaning for longer ranges it might be better to align the mechanical movement rather than the crosshair.
edi

 

[mchughcb]

My rifles are mainly blasers edi. They tolerances are extremely tight. If you have an old mauser that was never drilled true then you have a point. However for me its a no brainer.

 

[paul o']

My V8 Zeiss ZM Rail has the same'ish void and as the swaro the scope comes with a plastic filler you cut to size and stops the crud if you were to place it in the mud from getting in the space between the mounts, best thing about a rail scope is No Cant just eye ball relief to set up easy life