Teckel jacket

If you search posts from me on here I have a Primoz jacket for my Teckel and it’s exceptionally well made but I have discovered a fundamental issue with it at the exposed battery at the back of the neck snagging on brambles and fern stalks. Yesterday, I tried a Kardog jacket from Finland which has the tracker in a pouch on top. This didn’t snag and watching Wiggy work the base of hedgerows on yesterday’s shoot was most pleasing. This jacket is the same as that being sold by one of the UK dog tracking groups direct in the UK but I went for the import as I could tailor that with additional features that I could not get from the stock UK items.

Some photos of the Primoz (old style and second, the new style I have) and the Kardog jacket:

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I think that there should be more of a push to get mini sized Garmin collars into the UK. Most of these vests are bought simply to accommodate large GPS collars and it seems we have just accepted that mini collars cannot be purchased in the UK. It does make me wince to see a small (sub 9kg) teckel wearing the standard sized Garmin collar and the vests do make sense but it is importantant to make sure that they allow totally free movement and won't get snagged up in thick cover.
 
I think that there should be more of a push to get mini sized Garmin collars into the UK. Most of these vests are bought simply to accommodate large GPS collars and it seems we have just accepted that mini collars cannot be purchased in the UK. It does make me wince to see a small (sub 9kg) teckel wearing the standard sized Garmin collar and the vests do make sense but it is importantant to make sure that they allow totally free movement and won't get snagged up in thick cover.
Did a long day out stalking yesterday with the new KarDog jacket and the Teckel only snagged up a handful of times in thick cover but always freed himself without assistance. With the Primoz jacket up on Arran, the dog was getting stuck every couple of minutes and unable to free itself. The downside is as you say Keith is that the pouch is made to take the large collar battery and the small one is lost in there but the “proof of the pudding“ as they say “was in the eating” and yesterday, I was very pleasantly surprised to see just how different this jacket is to the Primoz in thick hawthorn scrub overrun with brambles.

It’s not as robust as Primoz’s which I will continue to use without the collar but the KarDog‘s pouch arrangement appears to work so much better in practice. The downside (the is always one) is that the KarDog is made out of PU nylon which is not as breathable (I think it was primarily intended for working in snow) - the ideal one IMHO would be made of a mesh. I do like the different side colour panels which mean that you can easily tell which way the dog is pointing and which way it’s going. Other great advantage is DTS importing them into the UK giving an on-shore solution :thumb:

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Did a long day out stalking yesterday with the new KarDog jacket and the Teckel only snagged up a handful of times in thick cover but always freed himself without assistance. With the Primoz jacket up on Arran, the dog was getting stuck every couple of minutes and unable to free itself. The downside is as you say Keith is that the pouch is made to take the large collar battery and the small one is lost in there but the “proof of the pudding“ as they say “was in the eating” and yesterday, I was very pleasantly surprised to see just how different this jacket is to the Primoz in thick hawthorn scrub overrun with brambles.

It’s not as robust as Primoz’s which I will continue to use without the collar but the KarDog‘s pouch arrangement appears to work so much better in practice. The downside (the is always one) is that the KarDog is made out of PU nylon which is not as breathable (I think it was primarily intended for working in snow) - the ideal one IMHO would be made of a mesh. I do like the different side colour panels which mean that you can easily tell which way the dog is pointing and which way it’s going. Other great advantage is DTS importing them into the UK giving an on-shore solution :thumb:

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The last couple of times I've been tracking with Hendrix (10.5 kg) I've not even bothered with a tracking harness - just the tracking collar. Now, I totally agree with the 'ceremony' of using a specific collar or harness so that the dogs knows - THIS MEANS TRACKING - but to be fair, all ours have spent too much time, in recent years, flushing pheasants, chasing rabbits and trailing hares - much of the good work has been undone in their later years.

Next Spring we are keeping a pup back to be a 100% stalking companion (no fun on other game allowed) and I am not sure if I will actually use a harness/vest. I think, this time around I will simply use a specific tracking collar with Garmin mini attached, for all stalking outings?? But, I haven't fully made my mind up??
 
Agreed - I too adopt the philosophy that harness equals work but that includes the collar too. Our Vizsla and Teckel are principally family dogs so at best, working has to be a compromise.

Just taken the T5 Mini battery off charge and put it away in the KarDog jacket and noticed just how much the top webbing has been “attacked” by brambles in these 2 outings.
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Makes you respect the dogs even more. Hendrix located a fallen munty in the thickest stand of blachthorn/bramble I had ever tried to enter last year. Blackthorn stems barely a foot apart and thorns starting very low down and tied up with barbed wire like bramble. Short of cutting the whole lot down it was an impossibility - yet the dog was weaving in and out without a care. We had a pub stop on the way home and my bare arms (Sept) were an embarrassing blood bath - even country folk seem more averse to blood in public places, than they once were. Following morning I was still palling briar thorns out of the dog.
Agreed - I too adopt the philosophy that harness equals work but that includes the collar too. Our Vizsla and Teckel are principally family dogs so at best, working has to be a compromise.

Just taken the T5 Mini battery off charge and put it away in the KarDog jacket and noticed just how much the top webbing has been “attacked” by brambles in these
 
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