Teckels - The Good, the bad and the ugly

[Rebel]

Hi,

Excuse the thread title, but hopefully it got your attention. As we all know it's only all good with teckels

I am a teckel owner, but not in anyway an expert or that knowledgeable about the breed.

The breed while becoming more popular isn't that widespread and information on them is limited enough. There is good knowledge of the breed on this site and I was hoping to learn a bit more about the breed it's strengths and weaknesses.

Hopefully this thread will help to generate a bit of discussion on the breed and its hunting abilities and help us all out. To start the ball rolling, while interested in all aspects of work for the breed, I suppose my main interest would be in working the breed in a small pack for hunting covers and bushing.

is there anyone on here using their teckels for that kind of hunting? How do you find they hunt together as a pack. Having a bit of a reputation as being independent and stripped for willed, is it even possible or them to work that way?

A pic of my lads all set for a day's hunting.

Apologies for the long thread and look forward to learning a bit more.

Thanks

 

[Keith Edmunds]

Fortunately for the breed but possibly, unfortunately for you to get a definitive response, the global dachshund (teckel is just another term for dachshund) genepool in enormous. Even if you were to whittle that down to purely working-bred dachshunds, the spectrum of types, across the globe is vast.

10 owners could give you 10 different answers depending on what lines they have sourced their dogs from. For example a kennel in Germany might be line-crossing with dogs from Norway, Serbia or Poland - therefore buying from one kennel, in one country can produce variable types.

Fortunately, for the type of work that you want to do - hunting cover above ground - most working teckels excel at it, I would go so far as to say it is actually what they are best at. They will, or at least should, own a line and stick to it so their 'range' is much greater than most terriers, spaniels etc. If any of ours gets on a hare or deer line, when hunting cover - we are in for a bit of a wait.

 

[Ratel]

Didn't Nick Valentine hunt a pack Keith? He would be s good source.
My little bitch was one yesterday, I have her passport but she came from Serbia through Rumania. The chap I bought her off is supposed to get me papers but I'm not holding my breath.
She Hunts cover well and has "found" a few dead deer and immediately grabs their thrioat even pulls them about. I'm quite happy papers or not but it would be nice to have some. I am keeping her away from holes as she is very keen and we have a lot of Brock's about.

 

[Keith Edmunds]

For me, this video is typical of teckels - prior to this, she had done some great obedience, half a dozen retrieves and was behaving impeccably. However......Once their nose is 'locked-on' you have to be patient, after all, they are doing what they were bred for. As long as they do come back!!

 

[Keith Edmunds]

Didn't Nick Valentine hunt a pack Keith? He would be s good source.
My little bitch was one yesterday, I have her passport but she came from Serbia through Rumania. The chap I bought her off is supposed to get me papers but I'm not holding my breath.
She Hunts cover well and has "found" a few dead deer and immediately grabs their thrioat even pulls them about. I'm quite happy papers or not but it would be nice to have some. I am keeping her away from holes as she is very keen and we have a lot of Brock's about.

Yes he hunted them with the Griffons but when VHD hit rabbits he switched to Munty and the teckels were too slow. A guy in Ireland hunts a mixed Griffon/Teckel pack now - one of the few people I know to hunt then properly as a pack. He is on FB.

 

[wytonpjs]

I can echo the hare comment - out stalking Friday with my young Teckel and trusty Vizsla when a huge hare gets up 2m in front of me - I was concentrating on a wood edge ahead, slowly become more visible as I stalked down a convex slope. The Teckel stopped at my initial “No” when it started to give chase and I moved forward scanning the grass in front of the wood, only to hear “yip-yip” and turned to see the Teckel disappearing off down a well established rack after the hare. No amount of command deflected it from its course and it was only its regular pausing to scent off track that allowed me to catch up with it and to rugby tackle it having left the rifle and stick with the Vizsla who as always, sat and solidly waited until my return carrying the Teckel!

One is enough! The prospect of a pack is truly terrifying

 

[finnbear270]

Just reminded SWMBO, 10 days till Armageddon
Two Teckel pups to install and these already in place,

 

[Keith Edmunds]

When Bella trailed her first hare (with continuous voice) and Hazel slipped down her first earth (after a tracking session) - both at 8 or 9 months - this was reported back to their breeder in Germany, his response was....."This is excellent, I am very happy"

 

[Keith Edmunds]

I can echo the hare comment - out stalking Friday with my young Teckel and trusty Vizsla when a huge hare gets up 2m in front of me - I was concentrating on a wood edge ahead, slowly become more visible as I stalked down a convex slope. The Teckel stopped at my initial “No” when it started to give chase and I moved forward scanning the grass in front of the wood, only to hear “yip-yip” and turned to see the Teckel disappearing off down a well established rack after the hare. No amount of command deflected it from its course and it was only its regular pausing to scent off track that allowed me to catch up with it and to rugby tackle it having left the rifle and stick with the Vizsla who as always, sat and solidly waited until my return carrying the Teckel!

One is enough! The prospect of a pack is truly terrifying

Remember - hare gives off the weakest of all scent. A dog that can trail a hare can trail anything - and the 'yip'yip' trailing hare with voice.....Gold Star

 

[Mike_E]

the "oh sh!t" moment made me laugh.

 

[Rake Aboot]

Mines has put loads out for the pitchers. He excels at it and the lurcher know when to switch on to him.

Standing at the edge of a wood trying to pinpoint the yip to get the little **** back can be annoying mind ! Lol

 

[WH308]

All being well I will have all of this to look forward to in the coming year! I’m starting to realise why Teckel size harnesses and long leads are popular purchases!

To be fair listening to a Teckel trailing a hare across a field can’t be any worse that watching a Doberman in full cry tailing a cyclist at full speed down a country lane!

 

[Keith Edmunds]

All being well I will have all of this to look forward to in the coming year! I’m starting to realise why Teckel size harnesses and long leads are popular purchases!

To be fair listening to a Teckel trailing a hare across a field can’t be any worse that watching a Doberman in full cry tailing a cyclist at full speed down a country lane!

The trouble is........they remember when something was fun Probably best to keep it on a lead for a while........it might forget how much fun hare trailing is. In Germany - most pass Spurlaut exam before 18 months and then........never trail hares again - a method in that madness

 

[shbangsteve]

The trouble is........they remember when something was fun Probably best to keep it on a lead for a while........it might forget how much fun hare trailing is. In Germany - most pass Spurlaut exam before 18 months and then........never trail hares again - a method in that madness

I have a Cocker she is exactly the same with Hares as are several other dogs in the shoot. No stopping them.

 

[wytonpjs]

The trouble is........they remember when something was fun Probably best to keep it on a lead for a while........it might forget how much fun hare trailing is. In Germany - most pass Spurlaut exam before 18 months and then........never trail hares again - a method in that madness

I can only dream of reaching the point that hares are no longer of interest Where I stalk, hares are abundant and are noticeably increasing.

 

[Keith Edmunds]

I have a Cocker she is exactly the same with Hares as are several other dogs in the shoot. No stopping them.

I think the big difference is.......Many dogs will chase a hare that they have seen. Many teckels will trail completely unsighted hares for hundreds of yards, purely by scent. 90% of the time mine trail hares that they never see. I have had them trail a hare in a wide loop - the teckel sometimes a minute behind the hare.

 

[pablo.222]

Would really love a teckle for my next dog. It would 50% be for taking out for me and 50% for a family pet. Whats you guys thoughts on them? Something to forget or should i seriously consider one?

 

[willie_gunn]

Didn't Nick Valentine hunt a pack Keith? He would be s good source.
My little bitch was one yesterday, I have her passport but she came from Serbia through Rumania. The chap I bought her off is supposed to get me papers but I'm not holding my breath.
She Hunts cover well and has "found" a few dead deer and immediately grabs their thrioat even pulls them about. I'm quite happy papers or not but it would be nice to have some. I am keeping her away from holes as she is very keen and we have a lot of Brock's about.

Our local MFH runs a pack of Teckels.

 

[Keith Edmunds]

Would really love a teckle for my next dog. It would 50% be for taking out for me and 50% for a family pet. Whats you guys thoughts on them? Something to forget or should i seriously consider one?

For a deer tracking dog, personally, I would just focus on that and nothing else. They have a great nose and loads of determination - keep them wedded to tracking deer and you should have a very handy dog in the field. At home, they are super pets - a bit intense at times - but friendly and great fun. Good intruder alarm too.

 

[willie_gunn]

For a deer tracking dog, personally, I would just focus on that and nothing else. They have a great nose and loads of determination - keep them wedded to tracking deer and you should have a very handy dog in the field. At home, they are super pets - a bit intense at times - but friendly and great fun. Good intruder alarm too.

How are they generally with other dogs?

One of our Guns has a Teckel as well as two Cockers, which get on fine (the Teckel retrieves ver well), but what about with two Labs and two Cockers? Would I be tempting fate?