Thermion Duo DXP 50 4k
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Of course the camera is only daytime, it has thermal for darkness!!!
Having said that, I'm sure some daftie will try to fit an IR and try to use it as an NV scope - until he finds out the camera lens is fixed focus and that using IR will only give an out of focus blurry image.
You've got to give Pulsar credit for stretching their product line
They come up with a new housing for the Thermion LRF scopes and then take the LRF module out and stick in a 4k camera and fixed focus 17mm lens and voila - you have a completely new and ground breaking product
The one good thing is that they are keeping the thermal and visible image separate at all times - none of this "fusion" rubbish like we see in the HIK Gryphons
And for those who have no idea what we're talking about - this is it
www.pulsar-nv.com
Cheers
Bruce
Having said that, I'm sure some daftie will try to fit an IR and try to use it as an NV scope - until he finds out the camera lens is fixed focus and that using IR will only give an out of focus blurry image.
You've got to give Pulsar credit for stretching their product line
They come up with a new housing for the Thermion LRF scopes and then take the LRF module out and stick in a 4k camera and fixed focus 17mm lens and voila - you have a completely new and ground breaking product
The one good thing is that they are keeping the thermal and visible image separate at all times - none of this "fusion" rubbish like we see in the HIK Gryphons
And for those who have no idea what we're talking about - this is it
Get to Know All the Products in the Pulsar Line | Pulsar
Our product line comprises thermal imaging riflescopes, binoculars, attachments, and scopes, night vision gadgets, software and apps, and their accessories:
www.pulsar-nv.com
Cheers
Bruce
The camera lens has a focus adjustment Bruce, on the top via an adjustment wheel.Of course the camera is only daytime, it has thermal for darkness!!!
Having said that, I'm sure some daftie will try to fit an IR and try to use it as an NV scope - until he finds out the camera lens is fixed focus and that using IR will only give an out of focus blurry image.
You've got to give Pulsar credit for stretching their product line
They come up with a new housing for the Thermion LRF scopes and then take the LRF module out and stick in a 4k camera and fixed focus 17mm lens and voila - you have a completely new and ground breaking product
The one good thing is that they are keeping the thermal and visible image separate at all times - none of this "fusion" rubbish like we see in the HIK Gryphons
And for those who have no idea what we're talking about - this is it
Get to Know All the Products in the Pulsar Line | Pulsar
Our product line comprises thermal imaging riflescopes, binoculars, attachments, and scopes, night vision gadgets, software and apps, and their accessories:
Cheers
Bruce
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According to the Pulsar write up the lens does not need focusssing
"4K full-colour sensor for daytime hunting
The daytime digital channel clearly draws objects at distances of 10 meters and over. Using the Thermion Duo DXP as a daytime riflescope is always simple and convenient as the lens does not require focusing. The 4K-resolution CMOS sensor provides exemplary detail and identification of objects across the entire range of magnifications, from 1.5x to 12x. Day hunting is not only comfortable, but also high-tech when using the Thermion Duo DXP. A full-colour image peculiar to classic daytime optics is combined with extreme digital functionality. At any time, the hunter can record an image, change the reticle pattern and colour, or connect the riflescope to a smartphone."
Maybe that slider control above the camera housing is for ranges under 10m ?
Cheers
Bruce
"4K full-colour sensor for daytime hunting
The daytime digital channel clearly draws objects at distances of 10 meters and over. Using the Thermion Duo DXP as a daytime riflescope is always simple and convenient as the lens does not require focusing. The 4K-resolution CMOS sensor provides exemplary detail and identification of objects across the entire range of magnifications, from 1.5x to 12x. Day hunting is not only comfortable, but also high-tech when using the Thermion Duo DXP. A full-colour image peculiar to classic daytime optics is combined with extreme digital functionality. At any time, the hunter can record an image, change the reticle pattern and colour, or connect the riflescope to a smartphone."
Maybe that slider control above the camera housing is for ranges under 10m ?
Cheers
Bruce
Any idea on price chaps ?
Ian has just put them up in the sales section, just shy of £5000 I think.
IMHO, still illegal in Scotland
However, I'm sure others will disagree!!
Not specifically because it is digital, but because it contains a heat sensitive device
Cheers
Bruce
The ambidextrous focussing knob is for the thermal, the visible camera does not require focussing
On further thought, the small slider above the camera may be a lens cap or some sort of aperture reduction device to prevent the visible camera from being overloaded in bright sunlight
Cheers
Bruce
Yes Bruce, in the video he opens the lens cover with the wee slider bit.
skull hooker
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Yet another 'breakthrough' by Pulsar.
Boils my **** this thermal market, supreme marketing ploy to get you to part with vast amounts of cash
What Pulsar should do is stop developing the new models and concentrate on existing model problems, like being unable to maintain zero when you turn it off.
Give it six months and something 'better' will be released.
Will be a bargain. You'll only have to remortgage your house or sell a kidney to get one.
Boils my **** this thermal market, supreme marketing ploy to get you to part with vast amounts of cash
What Pulsar should do is stop developing the new models and concentrate on existing model problems, like being unable to maintain zero when you turn it off.
Give it six months and something 'better' will be released.
Will be a bargain. You'll only have to remortgage your house or sell a kidney to get one.
roaring_stag
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I'm fairly certain that this device would be illagal in Scotland - as per:
5. It shall be lawful to use: b) a sight which is NOT a light-intensifying, heat sensitive or other special sighting device for night shooting.
Deer (Firearms etc.) (Scotland) Order 1985 ( s 5 (b))
The reccomendation to ScotGov from Deer Working group may see night/thermal permitted for deer in Scotland, most likely for night authorisation/licenced individuals only? Will have to wait and see how that one pans out. As far as I am aware, Nature Scot have been doing 'trials' with some contractors to use thermal/NV for some deer contracts in the last couple of years.
RS
roaring_stag
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Exactly this ......
Standby for IWA 2023 - Nurnberg when Pulsar will almost definately announce the 'earth shattering' and 'totally groundbreaking' addition of an LRF to this model........
YAWN
RS
I suppose it could be argued that the daytime colour camera is not light intensifying and is therefore legal, but I think the problem is that the thermal (heat sensitive) device is part of the overall scope and therefore could be used to shoot deer illegally
Having said all that, does anyone know of any convictions in Scotland for shooting deer at any time of day or night with NV or thermal?
Cheers
Bruce
Ah yes my bad !! That’s a lens cover slider, I think .
Pulsar won't stop developing more new products.
If they stopped development, the end of the company would soon follow.
Their product development cycle is now shorter than it used to be simply because they now have far more competition (HIK, Iray, Guide, Senopex et al) and if they want to retain or increase their market share, they have to bring out shiny new toys to attract potential buyers
Remember that all these digital NV and thermal products are far more electronic than optical so are governed by the pace of advancements in electronics rather than the much slower (virtually none existent) pace of advancements in optics.
As an example, even when Swarovski bring out new scopes, the "new" bit is electronic rather than optical
Cheers
Bruce
roaring_stag
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I suspect that the part of the act 'other special sighting device' would be applied here, and that the digital image aspect of this (or any other digital day scope), would mean that this is considered a special sighting device.
I am not aware of any convictions relating to shooting of deer in Scotland with NV or Thermal, although others may be? I suspect that the use of modern QD mounts and pic rails have been considered by some in the past? Who's to know?
RS
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