Thick timber and swamp hunting cartridges

[alberta boy]

Back in the day Remington had your needs covered:
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I have a 222 on a stutzen stock and would purchase one in 35 Rem tomorrow if I could find one.
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I'd love to get my hands on one of these . I've seen exactly one over the years , and the price tag had a lot of zeroes in it .

AB

 

[watercolour]

Thank you Alberta boy that was exaxtly the info i was looking mg for. i guess the make of gun will pick this one.

Ive located a parker and hale safari deluxe that has been rebord to 358 win for sale. Anyone have experience with these and what a fair price would be for a clean rifle?

Thanks all for the responses so far.

 

[hw101]

Actually , I use both . I've been shooting Speer 200 gr Hot Cores in my 8X57 for about thirty years and Nosler 225 gr Partitions , Sierra 225's through my 358's for about 20 years . The only difference I've seen is better penetration from the 225 gr Partitions on bigger game . I've used both to kill a number of Moose and other large game , they're both reliable killers and don't tear up a lot of meat in the process . In all honesty , I'd be hard pressed to choose between them . I hunt where there's a very healthy population of large Black Bears and Grizzly . If I expect to run into Grizzlies , I feel a bit better with the 358 , or something larger , in hand . The 8mm is more than capable of cleanly killing any bear we have , but the heavier bullet just makes me feel a little better .
As others have pointed out , a 308 or 30-06 with an appropriate bullet will do anything you need , I carry one quite often . That being said , I've never let practicality get in the way of buying another rifle . If you have your heart set on a fullstock ( stutzen ) , the CZ in 8X57 would make for a very nice hunting rig .

AB

Great reply - the voice of experience. Really enjoyed reading that. Thanks.

 

[Bavarianbrit]

Ive had great luck with the amax leaving softball size exit wounds up to 70 yards. I mainly run the 140 grain parition or hotcor both of which penetrate well. Mainly just looking for something that steps this up and leaves a good wound.

Remington did have me covered lol.

I have a friend who took a tc single shot pistol 12” and milled a barrel extension to make it legal and dropped it in a model 7 rifle stock. Super light weight and accurate.

30cm barrel length here with an overall length of 60cms.

 

[Rory]

Slightly different, but have you thought about .338 Federal? Necked up .308Win....

 

[watercolour]

I have looked into the 338 fed. Great little round but it seems to me the 358 offers more, as most the bullets in 338 are made for magnums.

 

[jthyttin]

if their going to be a discernible wow difference between a 8x57 200 grain and a 358 win 225 grain

I think you will get at least medium size wow effect, when buying consumables for 358 Win (vs.8x57JS). 35cal is basically only caliber after 30cal that has plenty of choice for bullets, including affordable. In addition to training you can use the handgun bullets for reduced loads and if it floats your boat, for some really "emphatic" short range full house loads.

If you want to combine the fullstock and thumper cartridge, go with the 8x57JS since CZ was sold in that chambering in US. Like said, the larger 30-06 size case is not best match for 20" barrel (9.3x62 and 35 Whelen).

 

[watercolour]

I agree. 9.3 doesnt offer much in the way of bullets, while the 35 cal does. Im beginning to lean toward the cz fs 8x57.
I did locate a parker and hale german receiver that was bored to 358 win. Im just not sure on the rebore over all.

Otherwise the 358 would be a custom affair.

 

[angusb1]

How about a BLR in 358 Winchester? It has a 20" barrel.

Browning BLR Rifle and the .358 Winchester

 

[bbell]

There was a guy was in Oregon called JES reboring. For $225 he made my 30/06 rem 700 into a 35 Whelen. Took about a week including shipping. He does all sorts of calibers. 308 to 358win would be easy for him. Easy to make use of a rifle you may already have laying around.

 

[Utectok]

Blackout?

 

[watercolour]

Blackout? That is one round I have no use for, 300 or 8.6. Subsonic its great but I dont think shooting game much above a rabbit with subs is all that great. To each his own though, Ive built numerous ARs for folks in that cartridge.

bbell…
How did your rifle shoot when you got it back? Im actually looking at a parker and hale that was done by jes to 358 win.

Angusb1…
Ive handled a few BLRs. The intricacies in the action kinda scare me off. I have heard a few horror stories about them.

 

[bbell]

Messaged you back For everybody else though it shot really well. It liked the Sierra game king bullets a lot.

 

[watercolour]

Just to follow up. I ended up buying a sporterized yugo m48 in 8x57js.

 

[scotch_egg]

Just to follow up. I ended up buying a sporterized yugo m48 in 8x57js.

Photos please

 

[gds]

For the thick, nothing beats 12/76 DDupleks Monolit

 

[watercolour]

 

[Dougal McGuire]

Looks like a nicely done sporterization. My 8x57 is a Yugoslavian refurbished Kar98k, shoots well.

 

[watercolour]

I hope so. It should be arriving tomorrow.

 

[A Guy Out West]

8x57 with a Nosler Partition. Why? Because it’s cool and will more than get the job done.