This morning at the range.

[kenbro]

Picked up a new B13 x .222 Rem. on Thursday.
Put a 3-9 scope on and bore sighted it.
At range this this morning it was misty enough to not see the targets at 100 yds.
So, 50 it is and have a dozen shots zeroed it dead on.
Took the scope off ( Quick release rings) and put my thermal sight on (Quick release to pic. rail.)
Tried a Pulsar thermal target but couldn’t see it. Thought it might be the weather but on checking the damn thing was cold.
That’s several out of the set to fail, so won’t be buying those again. Too expensive anyway for what they are.
Always prepared so warmed a 120 mm Dia x 5 mm thick disc with a gas torch and (Not for first time) screwed it to target board.
Shots about 300mil high but near inline.
Here’s a picture of the disc from 50 yards.
The two factory ammo (Privi 50 grain soft points) holes close together are quite small.
The other holes (Still fine tuning until last shot) were made by home loaded Berger 52 grain HP target bullets and are much bigger.
Some lower holes that aren’t marked were from a previous session.
Ken.

 

[Rhudson89]

Shooting non hardox plate makes you realise just how much energy is behind that little bullet...

 

[Malxwal]

Shooting non hardox plate makes you realise just how much energy is behind that little bullet...

On that note, I loaned a Hardox gong to a pal, who used his 7mm Rem Mag on it at 100 yds. The craters were impressive.

 

[Cyres]

Wait till you see one at 100yds with a .204!
D

 

[User00056]

I was given some steel flags a while back. Not thinking, I set one up at 100 yards expecting to hear a resounding 'clang'.

No clang, just a thud. It brought home to me just how much energy a bullet carries. This was my .270

 

[MarinePMI]

Picked up a new B13 x .222 Rem. on Thursday.
Put a 3-9 scope on and bore sighted it.
At range this this morning it was misty enough to not see the targets at 100 yds.
So, 50 it is and have a dozen shots zeroed it dead on.
Took the scope off ( Quick release rings) and put my thermal sight on (Quick release to pic. rail.)
Tried a Pulsar thermal target but couldn’t see it. Thought it might be the weather but on checking the damn thing was cold.
That’s several out of the set to fail, so won’t be buying those again. Too expensive anyway for what they are.
Always prepared so warmed a 120 mm Dia x 5 mm thick disc with a gas torch and (Not for first time) screwed it to target board.
Shots about 300mil high but near inline.
Here’s a picture of the disc from 50 yards.
The two factory ammo (Privi 50 grain soft points) holes close together are quite small.
The other holes (Still fine tuning until last shot) were made by home loaded Berger 52 grain HP target bullets and are much bigger.
Some lower holes that aren’t marked were from a previous session.
Ken.

For the thermal, just go buy a pack of toe warmers (similar to handwarmers but small enough to insert into the toes of your boots). They work well for thermal zeroing (especially lower end thermals where sensitivity is less detailed). Look like little packets, and can be stapled to a target board.


Amazon.com

 

[glasshalffull]

There's Hardox and there's pish

 

[Will the chippy]

My 22250 took two shots to blow throught 10 or 12mm hardox at 100yrds. They recommend no closer than 300yrds. Amazing the power of these little rounds.

 

[Andyquadra]

punching though hardox is more down to the velocity than the power of the bullet

 

[Utectok]

This is from toms targets indestructible

 

[Triggermortis]

My 22250 took two shots to blow throught 10 or 12mm hardox at 100yrds. They recommend no closer than 300yrds. Amazing the power of these little rounds.

So how is it my .270 and .303 doesn’t go through Hardox gongs at 35 yds?

 

[25 Sharps]

So how is it my .270 and .303 doesn’t go through Hardox gongs at 35 yds?

Because they are relatively slow compare to a hot .22

 

[Will the chippy]

So how is it my .270 and .303 doesn’t go through Hardox gongs at 35 yds?

Dunno. Cuz it's so much better? Toms targets said it was the worst calibre for there targets.

 

[Smellydog]

Drive a bullet of margarine fast enough and it will go through.

A faster bullet has less time to move out of the way. A slower bullet has time to change shape and change direction radially.
Change the bullets construction to penetrate.
Eventually the material resisting the bullet reaches it's melting point and itself moves out of the way. The faster bullet becomes a heat source producing a plasma cutting the surface of steel and the motion drives the cutting through.

 

[Cyres]

Toms targets said min 200+ yds for .204.
It does appear to plasma cut target but it's 3600 fps and impact on a tiny area so almost like a copper cored armour piercing round.
D

 

[Triggermortis]

So why doesn’t a 55g .243 at 3925fps cut Hardox and why not just shoot faster ,smaller and cheaper lead projectiles instead of larger more expensive A.P rounds at armour plate?

 

[Cyres]

Probably because the energy is delivered on 25 % less area than 6mm. Clearly only a tiny amount of molten copper so if your trying to penetrative thick military armour you need a large volume of molten metal hence shaped charges.
All I know is at 100yds 75 vmax in 6mm makes a splat but .204 leaves a crater. I will post a picture
D

 

[Foxyboy43]

Dunno why people bother buying expensive metal targets really - I just got my pal to make me a couple.
They are were just brilliant….

 

[Triggermortis]

Could it not be that some “Hardox” is actually Hardox and not inferior metal sold as Hardox?

 

[Utectok]

I videoed the (copper) bullets hitting the hardox and they seem to vaporise on impact in a flash.
There is absolutely nothing at the target site apart from a little damage to the concrete footing of the target