Tikka safety, is it safe!

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Ok, so the background to this is than I have used a Browning X bolt for years, on which you can work the bolt to load and unload the rifle with the safety catch engaged.
I recently had cause to buy a second rifle and found a used Tikka T3 that fitted the bill. BUT I have found that I have to disengaged the safety to unload the rifle.
Now I fully understand that a rifle is never really safe unless it is empty and the bolt removed but why on earth would anyone think the Tikka system was a good idea!

 

[Dave_45]

I used both my single stage T3 triggers (disengage safety to unload ) for years without incident.
I did however detest doing it,although it focused me intensely for the task.

However i got rid of both and got the 2 stage arctic trigger (bolt release button) , and it’s made me feel a whole lot better but I still apply the same safety drills.

 

[Dave_45]

£2-220 quid for the bolt release trigger from Edinburgh rifles or JR firearms

 

[Ronin]

I used both my single stage T3 triggers (disengage safety to unload ) for years without incident.
I did however detest doing it,although it focused me intensely for the task.

However i got rid of both and got the 2 stage arctic trigger (bolt release button) , and it’s made me feel a whole lot better but I still apply the same safety drills.

This unit is a step forward from the base trigger but still does not block the firing pin from moving forwards

Only the aftermarket Three position saftey type does this (Whixh was produced by a company in Germany if I recal correctly )

though the company name eludes me at the moment

 

[VSS]

Ok, so the background to this is than I have used a Browning X bolt for years, on which you can work the bolt to load and unload the rifle with the safety catch engaged.
I recently had cause to buy a second rifle and found a used Tikka T3 that fitted the bill. BUT I have found that I have to disengaged the safety to unload the rifle.
Now I fully understand that a rifle is never really safe unless it is empty and the bolt removed but why on earth would anyone think the Tikka system was a good idea!

I have never had a rifle that could be unloaded while "safe". I thought that was normal. It's certainly not a system that's unique to Tikka, whatever.

 

[Brave Echo Niner]

This unit is a step forward from the base trigger but still does not block the firing pin from moving forwards

Only the aftermarket Three position saftey type does this (Whixh was produced by a company in Germany if I recal correctly )

though the company name eludes me at the moment

@Ronin it was Roedale Precision that used to make these, however I believe they may have stopped manufacturing them by the conspicuous absence on their website.

Ben

 

[Brave Echo Niner]

Ok, so the background to this is than I have used a Browning X bolt for years, on which you can work the bolt to load and unload the rifle with the safety catch engaged.
I recently had cause to buy a second rifle and found a used Tikka T3 that fitted the bill. BUT I have found that I have to disengaged the safety to unload the rifle.
Now I fully understand that a rifle is never really safe unless it is empty and the bolt removed but why on earth would anyone think the Tikka system was a good idea!

A loaded rifle, safety engaged or not, is never safe.

If it bothers you then the T3 Timney 2 stage trigger allows bolt manipulation with the safety catch on, this does however come with it's own issues as you can get the dreaded click if the bolt handle gets knocked while carrying the rifle as the inertia of the spring mostly goes into dropping the bolt handle, causing a light strike.

I use it in competition mainly so little issue, but worth considering if on a full time stalking rig.

 

[Ronin]

@Ronin it was Roedale Precision that used to make these, however I believe they may have stopped manufacturing them by the conspicuous absence on their website.

Ben

I don’t think it was - pretty sure the chap making them makes actions too

Maybe supplied roe dale

 

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I used both my single stage T3 triggers (disengage safety to unload ) for years without incident.
I did however detest doing it,although it focused me intensely for the task

It certainly focuses you after using the Browning for year. Probably no bad thing in some ways!

 

[Ronin]

There you go

Tikka T3 Zubehör

Wir haben die Produktion des Tikka Zubehörs eingestellt. Es sind keine Restbestände mehr vorhanden.

buema-hochwang.de

 

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A loaded rifle, safety engaged or not, is never safe.

That what I said in the opening post

 

[Brave Echo Niner]

I don’t think it was - pretty sure the chap making them makes actions too

Maybe supplied roe dale

https://webshop.roedale.de/gx2/product_info.php?info=p1245_tikka-t3-3-position-safety-right-handed.html

Possibly, they certainly sold them as I have the old shop link bookmarked from when I considered one a number of years back.

 

[ColinBr]

I'm pretty sure it was the Roe dale I looked at before I bought the S20 trigger (same as the 2 stage Tic Tac trigger).

They no longer are in manufacture as far as I could see then or now

 

[Brave Echo Niner]

That what I said in the opening post

It was more in agreement with you than anything - I prefix it like that to highlight I don't believe the Timney is a substitute for good handling!

 

[ColinBr]

Also have to agree that the Tikka is in by no means the only manufacturer that uses much the same system

 

[Freeforester]

It’s going to be pretty hard to ‘accidentally’ fully engage the firing mechanism spring on a Blaser bolt action whilst unloading it, indeed the hardest bit is likely to be gaining the approval for a FAC when so clearly bereft of brain cells…

 

[ColinBr]

It’s going to be pretty hard to ‘accidentally’ fully engage the firing mechanism spring on a Blaser bolt action whilst unloading it, indeed the hardest bit is likely to be gaining the approval for a FAC when so clearly bereft of brain cells…

Not sure he mentioned a Blaser in his post?

 

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It’s going to be pretty hard to ‘accidentally’ fully engage the firing mechanism spring on a Blaser bolt action whilst unloading it, indeed the hardest bit is likely to be gaining the approval for a FAC when so clearly bereft of brain cells…

What are you waffling on about??

 

[Freeforester]

Not sure he mentioned a Blaser in his post?

Indeed, it was however the reason I sold my Tikka all those years ago when the R93 came onto the market. Most bolt action rifles have the spring cocked and ready to go, but are reliant on some form of potentially fallible preventative measure to avoid an accidental discharge, of which there have been many over the years.

Some designs are inherently harder to have a mishap with than others.

 

[ColinBr]

Indeed, it was however the reason I sold my Tikka all those years ago when the R93 came onto the market. Most bolt action rifles have the spring cocked and ready to go, but are reliant on some form of potentially fallible preventative measure to avoid an accidental discharge, of which there have been many over the years.

Some designs are inherently harder to have a mishap with than others.

Yes but you'd have to sell 3 x Tikkas for just 1 Blaser, and the sell another Tikka for just 1 spare barrel and kit.

That's a very hard sell that

Anyway. Back on topic