Tips on zeroing.223?
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Bo Diddley
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Just get on with it man and go and shoot some small deer...
HonestJohn
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Boresight it. Take a shot. Whilst holding the rifle dead still, adjust the scope to move the reticle from bullseye directly onto where your first shot hit. One shot zero. Then shoot another to confirm/fine tune, and finally a 3-5 shot group.
Polar Lynx
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Yes, first boresighting at 40 m then cheap ammo at 60 m and finally hunting ammo at 80 m.
Bavarianbrit
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German gunsmiths do it with one shot. They bore sight first then hold the rifle rock steady perhaps in a vice apparatus "boom" bullet goes say 4 inch right and 3 inch low. Smith then moves the reticule right and down till it centres over that bullet hole. See it on you tube too.
Envillegc1
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Hi
I boresight mine at 10 yds to get the vertical there abouts.
Then I go to 25 yds and put it on sand bags/shooting bags re bore site it. These I have on a black and decker workmate.
I move back to 50 yds check it again then put three rounds through it.
Usually I ignore the first round.
Then adjust until you have it hole through hole.
Then I move back to 100 yds and use a couple of more rounds.
You are then good to go from say 60 to 200 yds depending on weight of bullet.
That said if you are using factory ammo you may have to play around with bullets and find one your gun likes.
I boresight mine at 10 yds to get the vertical there abouts.
Then I go to 25 yds and put it on sand bags/shooting bags re bore site it. These I have on a black and decker workmate.
I move back to 50 yds check it again then put three rounds through it.
Usually I ignore the first round.
Then adjust until you have it hole through hole.
Then I move back to 100 yds and use a couple of more rounds.
You are then good to go from say 60 to 200 yds depending on weight of bullet.
That said if you are using factory ammo you may have to play around with bullets and find one your gun likes.
Steff
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How can you believe such BS living in Germany? Yes, some of them may do it as you have said. But they mostly do at at only 50m. The result is that customers receive rifles with ammo which is not tested for accuracy. Nobody ever shot a single group with the ammo/rifle combo. I see this shyte every week. Two inch groups with another two inches offset from the POA. This is what Frankonia sells to customers. At best in a Merkel Helix which won‘t open after the third shot. So much for German gunsmiths!
Foxyboy43
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Steff
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Sorry for that. But my blood pressure rises when someone mystifies ‚German gunsmiths‘.Gosh! Get off the fence man - call it as it is!
You are not wasting Ammo as each time you pull the trigger you learn something (or should be)
Take a primer out of a spent round and chamber it, that way the area you are bore sighting won't be affected by getting your head in the right position. Like a peep sight.
I bore sight at 35 yards, then shoot off sticks around 50 to get the vertical correct then dial the height then 1" at a 100 99 or 101 lol
Go back the next day and check with a cold barrel as often I might only fire one shot on one deer or fox so I like it to be how I will go out every time.
What click adjustments does your scope have? I will assume you have MOA which for simple explanation means that each click moves the point of impact 1/4" at 100yds.
Put a target with a horizontal and vertical line bisecting each other, each starting at the top/bottom and left/right centre of the page so you have a large cross on the target with the centre being exactly in the middle, at 33yds which is approx 1/3 of the distance of 100yds. Mark 1 inch increments outwards in all directions from the centre so after you have fired a shot, you can tell exactly (within quarter of an inch or so) how far your shot is falling from the centre of the target.
Get steady on a bipod or some sand bags or some other rest you can cobble together where you can hold the gun steady. Remove the bolt from the rifle and look through the barrel/bore and line it up with the centre of the target. You will not see the exact centre of the target perfectly but wiggle your head/eye around until you have the bore of the rifle pointed approx at the centre of the target. Now without moving the rifle, look through the scope and see if the point of aim is near enough the middle of the target. If it is, stick the bolt back in and chamber a round and fire a shot at the target. If it isn't, adjust the scope until the crosshairs are somewhere close to the middle of the target while the bore is also pointing at the middle of the target. Once you are happy that the bore is pointing at the target ass well as the scope, fire a shot. This single shot should get you on the paper and if easier, do the bore sighting bit at home. It can be at 20yds or similar, it does not need to be at 33yds but your first shot at the target should be at 33yds to make adjustments easier.
So you have fired shot number 1 and you have hit the target somewhere at 33yds. Via your already marked out 1 inch markers on the target, work out how far left or right and how far high or low you are from the centre. Let's say your shot is 2 inches low and 3 inches right of where you were aiming. Because the target is set up at 33yds, that is one third of the distance from your desired zero range of 100yds. We know the scope will adjust in 1/4" increments with each click at 100yds, so at 33yds you will need 3 times as many clicks to move the point of impact the same distance.
So you are 2 inches low which means you need to raise the point of aim up. At 100yds, this would be 8 clicks (8 x 1/4" is 2 inches) but at 33yds, you need 3 x as many clicks, so you need to adjust your elevation turret 24 clicks up.
You are 3 inches right of the target at 100yds, so your windage turret would need 12 clicks left at 100yds (12 x 1/4" is 3 inches) but at 33yds, it should be 3 x as many clicks. So you will need to adjust your windage 36 clicks left to move point of impact to the centre at 33yds.
Now you have done this, you have a gun that is pretty much zeroed at 33yds. Don't waste another shot on the short target. Move the target out to 100yds and carefully take your time and fire one good shot at the target. Wait until you are breathing slowly and calm and relaxed. Using your inch markers on the target, work out again how far away you are from centre and make the necessary adjustments but this time you just need one click for 1/4" of adjustment because you are now at 100yds. So if you are 1 inch to the right, adjust your windage 4 clicks left and if you are say 2 inches high, adjust your elevation 8 clicks down. You are now zeroed perfectly at 100yds assuming your scope tracks properly and the adjustment turrets work as they should.
You could take a 3rd shot to confirm you are bang on but if you can shoot straight and your kit is working, you will be. Now go kill something.
What about if the deer is standing at an imperial distance...?
zerovarm
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I don't use a .223 for Deer
You should definitely consider using a lightsabre then Tim
Foxyboy43
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Steff
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Good point. Rifles should always be zeroed for yards AND meters.
I have just gave my expiation in a much shorter version as yours sounds like someone playing the castanets with all thatYou should definitely consider using a lightsabre then Tim
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