Titanic Submersible missing

It's not the risk that they've taken that bothers me - you've got to admire a risk taker - but the trouble and potential danger that is now being faced by those involved in the massive rescue operation.
By all means take risks, but don't drag other people into it when it all goes wrong.
You're on your own, you and your team. And even then it can degenerate into every man for himself. Just like when sh*t happens on the top of Everest. Remember the 1996 Everest disaster? I read a first-hand account recently, written by one of the few survivors of that expedition. Chilling.
What or where did you read that? It sound quite interesting.
 
I’ve never understood people who question why folk do these things.
What boring lives some must lead.
Make no bones about it , if the funds were there I would be in the queue for a trip to the bottom of the ocean.
And into space.
I wouldn't question why people do these things; only in this instance, how they do them.
I do understand the fascination with the Titanic. (Obsessives are known as Titaniacs, apparently).
Soon after Dr Robert Ballard discovered the wreck in 1985, he wrote a book about it with wonderful computer-enhanced images of the wreck on the seabed and a full history of the ship and its fateful voyage. My brother bought me this book as a Christmas present and I found it utterly compelling and that interest has never left me.
Would I dive it if I had the money? No. I don't like confined spaces for a start and I'm uncomfortable about ogling a grave site. But I understand the compulsion of those who have done it.

When Ballard found the wreck and mapped it, he left a memorial plaque on one of the bronze capstans and expressed the hope that now the wreck had been found and a memorial laid, it would be left in peace to decompose to dust. That's pretty much my feeling but sadly it hasn't worked out that way. Though at least it is a protected site now. During the 1990's the debris field was ransacked by commercial dives. That at least has stopped.

I don't condemn this party for their adventure. I understand why they felt they had to do it, though from what we're learning about it, it seems extraordinarily ill-advised and I wouldn't have done it myself for a number of reasons. Nevertheless, I don't think any less of them because of their wealth. There is no schadenfreude and I hope they survive and make it home. But I fear the worst.
 
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Finch/ or others.
How were they scavenging the site back in 90s?
Unmanned remote control submersible?
I take it they have the ability to lift things up and load themselves?

Must admit I like a heath Robinson fix/invention but a submarine working at that depth is just pushing it far to far


Are proper full size submarines any good with something like this?.
Can they help locate it being closer at that depth or just add to the back ground noise
 
Finch/ or others.
How were they scavenging the site back in 90s?
Unmanned remote control submersible?
I take it they have the ability to lift things up and load themselves?

Must admit I like a heath Robinson fix/invention but a submarine working at that depth is just pushing it far to far


Are proper full size submarines any good with something like this?.
Can they help locate it being closer at that depth or just add to the back ground noise

They are good at listening. So if there were some mechanical noise such as tapping or maybe from electrical motors then a military submarine would have a good chance of detecting it if it were in the right place and the environment supported.

I wouldn't fancy the chances of detecting the Submersible with active sonar from a military submarine unless the Titan is mid water column.

However, the sonobuoy fields that the P8 is dropping will be quite effective if they are making noise. Then a miltibeam/sidescan sonar from a survey ship would be the the way to find the Titan.
 
seems to me after reading of how much air supply they originally had that they are doomed a terrible time unless already imploded.
 
Rather be boring than dead 😁
Everything is relative.
In between my periods of shooting I did a lot of climbing. Rock, ice and high mountain and it’s just you and your buddy if it all goes south.
True that at alpine altitudes you can get a helicopter up to even the highest summits, but if you are in a ravine or a crevasse then it’s still very hard to get you out.

All climbers know the risks - I watched two die on Mt Blanc as they slid off the ridge into Italy, and 3 more die in another mountain as a snow bridge crossing a huge crevasse collapsed whilst they were on it (we had crossed minutes before) , but as soon as I had kids I hung up my axes as it’s not fair on your dependents to put yourself into such danger and risk leaving them without a parent.

Poking the grim reaper with a stick and running away seems like fun but at some point he will catch up with you!!
 
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