Ukraine Peace deal. Evidence for Apthorpe

[Ade8mm]

I did a search and found the offending thread blocked. Pity

A reply to an offensive and arrogantly wrong SD member is really required here. @Apthorpe

(I generally refrain from ad-hominem but sometimes it is necessary)

Please see below;

@ Apthorpe

You may recall challenging my lack of "evidence" as to a possible deal whereby Boris Johnson was parachuted in to put the kibosh on any such thing and claimed it was to all intent and purpose bull-shite)

Sometimes old chap it takes a while for the less informed to be able to see the wood from the trees. So here you go;

(It was true then and it is still true. Truth does not change)

Well here it is, (the lacking evidence)



The relevant part is from 15:13 and to save you any further confusion I would recommend you watch all of it.

Good old Bozzer. Mmmh (who was he/is working for?)

@Apthorpe I now look forward to a full retraction and apology from you on Stalking Directory in due course which I am sure a gentleman will proffer.

Ade

 

[Apthorpe]

I did a search and found the offending thread blocked. Pity

Would you mind providing a link to it so I can review my allegedly offensive error?

A reply to an offensive and arrogantly wrong SD member is really required here. @Apthorpe

(I generally refrain from ad-hominem but sometimes it is necessary)

Please see below;

@ Apthorpe

You may recall challenging my lack of "evidence" as to a possible deal whereby Boris Johnson was parachuted in to put the kibosh on any such thing and claimed it was to all intent and purpose bull-shite)

Sometimes old chap it takes a while for the less informed to be able to see the wood from the trees. So here you go;

(It was true then and it is still true. Truth does not change)

Well here it is, (the lacking evidence)



The relevant part is from 25:17 and to save you any further confusion I would recommend you watch all of it.

After wading through the lengthy ads preceeding this video, I went straight to the "relevant part" at 25:17 where the screen showed a "thanks for watching" message and the video ended one second later having given no information whatsoever, "evidence" or otherwise. Some error perhaps?
I may watch the whole thing as and when I have time, but it will certainly be at least an hour before you get a retraction and or apology.

@Apthorpe I now look forward to a full retraction and apology from you on Stalking Directory in due course which I am sure a gentleman will proffer.

Ade

 

[Ade8mm]

Would you mind providing a link to it so I can review my allegedly offensive error?

After wading through the lengthy ads preceeding this video, I went straight to the "relevant part" at 25:17 where the screen showed a "thanks for watching" message and the video ended one second later having given no information whatsoever, "evidence" or otherwise. Some error perhaps?
I may watch the whole thing as and when I have time, but it will certainly be at least an hour before you get a retraction and or apology.

Sorry, if you read my post you will have seen the thread has been blocked.(conveniently for you)
I am sure you well remember it. You made some comment about "not being able to confirm a negative" at the time.

Relevant part (to this particular issue) is 15:13 (see above)
Can't do anything about the adverts. If you are that hard up I will send you $25 for an adblocker once you apologise and admit you were wrong.
Ade

 

[Apthorpe]

I have now watched the whole thing and two facts are apparent:
1. That is half an hour of my life I will never get back. It is an opinion piece by a youtuber and a guest writer /retired servicewoman. The whole thing is weak-minded nonsense on a variety of topics - liberally peppered with both factual and logical errors. What drivel!
2. Throughout the whole of that video there is absolutely no evidence that Johnson, or anyone else, put the kibosh on any peace deal. Nor indeed that any deal had ever existed or even been drafted. Not one single word of evidence.

For the record, the Ukrainian chap featured was neither a former ambassador to Russia, nor part of the Ukrainian delegation at the Istanbul talks as the presenter incorrectly claimed. He is a former ambassador to Romania with a longstanding public opposition to alignment with the West.
The idea that Johnson (or for that matter Biden) interfered to prevent peace in Ukraine is repeated by the guest, who knows nothing first-hand about it, but not supported by any evidence, in that video. The argument isn't even coherent.

 

[sikamalc]

OK, guess what Lets move on shall we.