Ultra Processed Food UFP & modern society

I’m offshore as well len, and you often wonder with costs they get to feed someone for a day how they manage !
18months on bread !? Wow!!!!
Would not like to bet that is more than they get to feed prisoners', wonder if google has an answer
 
Would not like to bet that is more than they get to feed prisoners', wonder if google has an answer
Funny you should say that but I Googled the prison food budget, currently £2.68 pp/pd. I believe the offshore food budget is closer to the £2 mark, but I shall enquire today as I am currently offshore.
That said, the food offshore can vary greatly, from the rather quite good all the way through to the rather quite atrocious.
 
always will be a section or minority of society or a demographic who will never take accountability of their own actions etc ….. but it’s not all that cut and dried !

The problem as I see it, is that its not a "minority," who don't take personal accountability, it is a very large section of society.
Our modern regulated society, has created the illusion that you don't need to look out for yourself, someone else is doing that for you. And.. if something goes wrong, there a no win no fee solicitor to help you get compensation.

Establishing personal accountability is the ist priority, education next.

Next time your in a shop look at label and all E/ numbers and emulsifiers and flavourings etc …
From an early age I recall being told, "you are what you eat".
I passed that on to my son.
And when he came to the supermarket with me, we made a game of seeing who could find the product with the most E numbers.
It didn't stop him wanting those multi colour sweets, but HE managed the balance of which product and how often, not me.

M.
 
Funny you should say that but I Googled the prison food budget, currently £2.68 pp/pd. I believe the offshore food budget is closer to the £2 mark, but I shall enquire today as I am currently offshore.
That said, the food offshore can vary greatly, from the rather quite good all the way through to the rather quite atrocious.
Ive visited gas platforms in the Gulf in the past altough only as a day visitor, the food there was pretty good, often incorporating s/asian cuisine given a v.high proportion of workers form Bangladesh/Pakistan/India, I wouldn't mind betting it was less then £2pppd there!!!
 
I’d imagine there be little difference between offshore and prison food…. It be same companies contracted I bet !
As Len said it can be wildly dofeeenr from rig to rig but must admit the standards lot better than used to be .

I’ll put hands up here and now I’m a hypocrite!
Partial to fizzy & cherry fizzy cola bottle sweeties and I love a lips& ar5e hole smoked sausage !
🫣

Biggest downfall … crisps!….i found given up cigarettes a breeze compared to stopping crisps !😔
But I’m working on it

Jist amazes me what food companies have gotten away with and to how big an extent

As an aside …. As a food lover another big consideration…. Portion control !

Having to relearn that leaving food on the plate is not a sin!… after a lifetime drummed in as a bairn to clear yer plate …. If you’re full or comfortable ….. walk away

Paul
 
Ive visited gas platforms in the Gulf in the past altough only as a day visitor, the food there was pretty good, often incorporating s/asian cuisine given a v.high proportion of workers form Bangladesh/Pakistan/India, I wouldn't mind betting it was less then £2pppd there!!!
Ditto, I spent a couple of weeks offshore from Dubai and probably 95% of the personnel onboard were from the Indian sub continent, consequently so was the food. Fortunately I love Indian cooking, but three times a day for a fortnight?
One morning I asked the chef for an omelette for breakfast, he happily obliged but it arrived with a healthy amount of green chillies in it.
 
A friend's son was going through training for the Royal Marines only recently, he had to pay for his food on camp out of his earnings but he had zero choice in where he was able to eat. The catering was contracted out to one of the usual large firms but the food, by his account, was absolutely dreadful, chips and baked beans mostly and any meat was carefully rationed out so that there was exactly one portion for each recruit. Unfortunately some greedy ****s would take two pieces so the people at the end of the line got none.
The food offered was mostly just stodge to satisfy the high carb requirement but nothing by way of vegetables to provide anything like a balanced diet.
 
I love a lips& ar5e hole smoked sausage !
🫣

Biggest downfall … crisps!….i found given up cigarettes a breeze compared to stopping crisps !😔
But I’m working on it

Jist amazes me what food companies have gotten away with and to how big an extent

As an aside …. As a food lover another big consideration…. Portion control !

Having to relearn that leaving food on the plate is not a sin!… after a lifetime drummed in as a bairn to clear yer plate …. If you’re full or comfortable ….. walk away

Paul
A couple of weeks ago I had the Lurgy and lost my appetite. I did have a hankering for Hienz cream of tomato soup and a grillkorv, that's like a large hotdogs. The grill korv was a true lips and arsehole thing. A day later my mate rang and asked if I wanted 6 kilos of smoked sausage made with roe, fallow and boar meat. The difference between the shop bought and the game sausages was like night and day.
 
For those who care about what they eat, the Yuka app can be useful:
This allows you to scan the barcode of food or cosmetics to see what sort of rubbish you’re away to buy. It has changed some of our shopping habits.
Interestingly, one of my kids and I were shopping for sun tan lotion at the weekend and there is a huge variation in the ingredients. Some are really full of nasty stuff. We ended up with some that cost a fair bit but was recommended by a dermatologist we know and had the best Yuka score by a country mile ( La Roche posay)
 
Ditto, I spent a couple of weeks offshore from Dubai and probably 95% of the personnel onboard were from the Indian sub continent, consequently so was the food. Fortunately I love Indian cooking, but three times a day for a fortnight?
One morning I asked the chef for an omelette for breakfast, he happily obliged but it arrived with a healthy amount of green chillies in it
Re 'Indian food' met too, my wife and spent 8 nights in the Maldives which has a cuisine pretty much the same. I di d eat it at least twice a day for the whole trip. Love it.
 
As an aside …. As a food lover another big consideration…. Portion control !

Having to relearn that leaving food on the plate is not a sin!… after a lifetime drummed in as a bairn to clear yer plate …. If you’re full or comfortable ….. walk away
Your spot on, and those doing the drumming probably live through the WWII rationing, so wasting for was a sin.

And it still should be.

As you say, size matters and introducing Calorie Count on menus, helps people understand it, and make choices.

Our local curry house sell massive portions.
We order one Balti, one P rice and a naan between us, and we're still full.

M
 
Dont get me started on fizzy sugar drinks!

Did a long bike ride last year, last day after 9 on the road, totally ran out of gas , had the trots a couple of days before.

So with zero in the tank, drank half litre of full sugar Coke. OMG went off like a scolded cat got to the next stop with eyes on stalks. Piled in loads of complex carbs to offset insulin spike such circumstances can cause.

I am 120kg so what on earth does it do to small kids full of the stuff ?
 
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