Varget dilemma
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Ade8mm
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Palmer Mike
Driven Boar. Ah yes. That's the sort of thing.
I was just lucky to be in the right place at the right time (serendipity). I actually wasn't even sure which 8mm calibre it was - there are many of course - when I made my offer to buy it.
I just knew I had to have it.
Bought it as an 8 x 57JR .After sending a few rounds out and looking at the now "reformed in the chamber" brass I realised it wasn't 57mm ! Something amiss ! (I did, however take the precaution of using .318 JR loads first) As above all good as it was .323
A lot of research and aggro. (well it is an old double)
Owning this rifle has been an journey of eduction and pleasure. I just wish I had the chance to get out and use it more (like most of us I suspect)
All in good time.
Aye
palmer_mike
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Yes had to pay a lot of attention while loading bosses rifles, make sure not to put the .323 loads in the .318 rifle
Ade8mm
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I can well imagine.
I trust your boss keeps the same level of attention when shooting the things
palmer_mike
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He came back in one piece so I assume so .I can well imagine.
I trust your boss keeps the same level of attention when shooting the things
Also shot 11 boar so he was happy with the loads phew!
SO-62 that should be. (DO grades are something else entirely, ie double-based and mostly ball type.)
Ade8mm
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No idea Banus. How about Middle East (work) and Worcestershire? Does that help you? Better now?
Standard post-Reach alternatives to H. VarGet are:
IMR-4166 Enduron (rather faster burning)
Reload Swiss RS52 (charges usually end up close, but the Reload Swiss powder will give slightly higher MVs)
As @Muir says, Lovex SO-62 is a good option, same applications and very similar characteristics / performance to longstanding IMR-4064.
Alliant Re15 (a tad slower burning, slightly larger charges needed to produce VarGet pressures and MVs). Norma 203-B is the same product and a little cheaper if available locally.
Viht has nothing directly comparable, but both N140 and the slower burning N150 grade are excellent matches to the 8X57 IRS with a 175gn bullet.
Ramshot TAC will work in this application, but is by no means the perfect VarGet replacement. Its slightly slower burning stablemate 'Wild Boar' (Accurate-2520 in US tables) is actually a better internal ballistic partner to 8X60. Both Ramshot powders will leave rather a lot of airspace in the case being very fine-grained ball and having higher energy levels than VarGet.
IMR-4166 Enduron (rather faster burning)
Reload Swiss RS52 (charges usually end up close, but the Reload Swiss powder will give slightly higher MVs)
As @Muir says, Lovex SO-62 is a good option, same applications and very similar characteristics / performance to longstanding IMR-4064.
Alliant Re15 (a tad slower burning, slightly larger charges needed to produce VarGet pressures and MVs). Norma 203-B is the same product and a little cheaper if available locally.
Viht has nothing directly comparable, but both N140 and the slower burning N150 grade are excellent matches to the 8X57 IRS with a 175gn bullet.
Ramshot TAC will work in this application, but is by no means the perfect VarGet replacement. Its slightly slower burning stablemate 'Wild Boar' (Accurate-2520 in US tables) is actually a better internal ballistic partner to 8X60. Both Ramshot powders will leave rather a lot of airspace in the case being very fine-grained ball and having higher energy levels than VarGet.
Thanks for the catch. I never need to use that LOVEX designation so often screw it up.~Muir
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