Venison for vegans

[opticron1]

As @Dickie has stated very reasonably..... If you are a Vegan, then you have chosen not to eat animal based or linked products. Pescatarians will allow themselves to eat fish etc.
Vegetarians choose not to eat meat, but don't take it to an extreme to avoid milk based foods or those that may have animal fats in their production.
I like to think that there are more "ethical carnivores" around that prefer to eat meat/game/fish if they know where the food comes from and is well looked after or ethically shot/trapped/caught.
We had some friends, one of whom was a "vegan", but realised fresh caught mackerel tasted good and had realised it was not farmed in any way and she eventually set up a small holding and started to eat meat as long as it was their own product....

 

[timbrayford]

Not really

Having a different outlook from you doesn’t make someone stupid.

Refusing to see others point of view ? well that’s another thing .

Ah, seeing the others point of view, just like Packham does? To be brutally frank isn't it about time that we stood up for ourselves and told those who believe that they are the only ones entitled to an opinion to think again?

 

[Rake Aboot]

Ah, seeing the others point of view, just like Packham does? To be brutally frank isn't it about time that we stood up for ourselves and told those who believe that they are the only ones entitled to an opinion to think again?

Your really that scared of vegans and packham ?

 

[Rory]

This is the dumbest nonsense about the honey and I used to work with someone who wouldn't eat figs (if you know you know if you don't it's not worth looking it up, honest)

Ha ha, wow... fascinating lengths these people will go to!

 

[Essexsussex]

It’s hardly that one may or may not see a different point of view, much less stupidity, rather more a basic nutritional matter. One former larder assistant I had tried the vegan route, but admitted they went downhill physiologically between their eventual relapse. I’m not saying it can’t be done, but it does appear to dsibenefit the person in terms of health.

I was speaking with my Indian friend about this just yesterday. He said that in Asia it’s quite easy to be a healthy vegan because the market is so large for vegan food that appropriate crops are grown for that diet and shops stock anything else required.

Less easy in a society where we aren’t vegans in the main.

This makes sense to me.

 

[shakey jake]

I was speaking with my Indian friend about this just yesterday. He said that in Asia it’s quite easy to be a healthy vegan because the market is so large for vegan food that appropriate crops are grown for that diet and shops stock anything else required.

Less easy in a society where we aren’t vegans in the main.

This makes sense to me.

My unvle was a hindu, he thinks the reason hindus are healthy with a vegan diet is the chappati flour. Its was always seived to remove the bugs, but almost certainly left bits of bugs behind

 

[TringSaint]

My unvle was a hindu, he thinks the reason hindus are healthy with a vegan diet is the chappati flour. Its was always seived to remove the bugs, but almost certainly left bits of bugs behind

If you ever want all of your flour to become bug ridden quickly then buy some authentic Indian gram flour and within months you too will have buggy bread!!

 

[timbrayford]

Your really that scared of vegans and packham ?

No, but they are rather ruling the roost at the moment and collectively we all need to get pro active and seize the initiative back for ourselves.

 

[TringSaint]

No, but they are rather ruling the roost at the moment and collectively we all need to get pro active and seize the initiative back for ourselves.

They are disproportionately noisy at the mo, but the big vegan switch is slowly dying as, unlike vegetarianism, vegan diets are had work and not really suitable for humans without a lot of supplements.
If you are a die hard vegan then you will go to those lengths for your beliefs, but if you are a social or weekend vegan then it becomes tiresome after a while. Plus, unless you like to cook, most vegan diets are satisfied via a packet of pre-made food, and that gets expensive.

It’s no surprise that many of the vegan food manufacturers are struggling and normal food manufacturers are scaling back their production of vegan meals.

Normal service will be resumed shortly, I feel!!

 

[weblyish]

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Big day for me this weekend with my vegan SIL and her partner coming round for roast venison

Over the past year her views have come round from "how could you possibly kill Bambi" via "I guess it's better than the poor farmed chickens etc" to "I think I'm ready to try some venison"

So Starting early for Sunday lunch by defrosting a rolled fallow boned haunch and boiling a bottle of port and a bottle of red wine down to a pint for the base of some sticky gravy

Not decided if I'll roast it for rare in the middle or sous vide it to medium and then blast it for some colour on the outside

There's a danger if it is a bloody mess in the middle it'll be a bit challenging for someone who hasn't eaten meat in a decade so I'm tempted to sous vide it to make sure it is cooked through to the same level

As for the gravy I have a pint of stock in the freezer and a jar of spiced cherry jam from Christmas and am planning on boiling the whole lot together and going from there

Wish me luck

No photos because they were an hour late and I was all in a rush but this went better than I could have expected

Meat was perfect
55c for 11hours sous vide
Then
Slathered in butter salt pepper mustard powder
Then
15mins in a 240c oven
Straight to the table
Proper medium throughout no bloody bits but also even the outer inch was decent and not dry.
And most importantly it wasn't very metallic/livery

All gone

1.7kg of meat for 7 people (that's a metric f#%kton in old money)

Sister in law had one tiny slice then three more with lots of chat about the butchery process and what happens to the rest of it and I think went away happy with the whole process.

I don't feel it's a win to try and convert someone to eating meat but it's always a win to make someone consider what they eat a bit more