Oh come on Ade! Don't disapoint the poor fellow! You know exactly why @Tim.243 tagged you: He was relying on you to make some scathing remarks about anyone who claims grant funding or any kind of financial support for their business.
Venison Price drop!
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Of course people will always be willing to pay for the privilege of hunting on some of the best, most beautiful, historic, productive and CONVENIENT places in the world… and rightly so.
We have the absolute cream of it right here in the UK…. Estates often have multiple deer species with superb genetics, hygienic larder facilities, ample parking….decent pubs nearby…game bird shooting, usually excellent fishing opportunities.
You can’t realistically expect to be paid to do all this stuff
nun_hunter
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Those sort of places exist elsewhere in the world too and people do pay, but a lot less people pay because there are thousands of other opportunities. The UK is massively different because of the fact we can sell wild venison, that fact alone turns it into a money generating business/hobby compared to other countries.
Those same beautiful estates dont charge people to trap their rats in order to keep the estate looking nice and not being over run. This is because people dont want to pay to provide this service. If rats suddenly became a popular trophy then I'm sure that would change.
My 2 pennies worth is, If your taking carcasses to an aghe then your registered with your local council so you have the option to butcher & sell or take the hit on the price at the aghe.
out of interest what do they expect back from there investment? I'm assuming for wild deer so your helping with reducing the numbers, is there a need to pay back the monies over a period of time? do they actually check if your doing what you say you will?
unfortunately I doubt they pay retrospectively which is a shame as my chiller's & butchery setup are already complete but I'm certainly helping reduce the numbers. maybe they will pay my electric
I think its great that the government & organisations help with grants/setup costs etc, all you hear from them is deer numbers are the highest they've been since records started.
out of interest what do they expect back from there investment? I'm assuming for wild deer so your helping with reducing the numbers, is there a need to pay back the monies over a period of time? do they actually check if your doing what you say you will?
unfortunately I doubt they pay retrospectively which is a shame as my chiller's & butchery setup are already complete but I'm certainly helping reduce the numbers. maybe they will pay my electric
The reason why primary producers can access grant funding so readily is because by injecting funds at the top the money filters down the chain and ends up supporting smaller ancillary rural businesses. So, for example, agricultural support payments end up in the pockets of people like @Tim.243, who repairs, and fabricates parts for, agricultural machinery.My 2 pennies worth is, If your taking carcasses to an aghe then your registered with your local council so you have the option to butcher & sell or take the hit on the price at the aghe.
I think its great that the government & organisations help with grants/setup costs etc, all you hear from them is deer numbers are the highest they've been since records started.
out of interest what do they expect back from there investment? I'm assuming for wild deer so your helping with reducing the numbers, is there a need to pay back the monies over a period of time? do they actually check if your doing what you say you will?
unfortunately I doubt they pay retrospectively which is a shame as my chiller's & butchery setup are already complete but I'm certainly helping reduce the numbers. maybe they will pay my electric
The same sort of thing with my venison business. There's a lot of support out there from regional administrations for small-scale food businesses because it keeps the money local, and recirculates it into the economy of the area. For example, I pay a small local company to service my refridgeration unit. And, if those small food businesses get the support they need in order to grow then there's a hope that they'll ultimately provide employment in the area.
There is no need to pay back grant monies, provided that they're used only for the purpose that they were intended, and that you continue trading for a certain minimum period. (For example, when I received a significant grant in 2003 towards the cost of a new 60ft x 60ft building to house livestock in the winter, there was an obligation on me to use the building for agricultural purposes for a minimum period of 10 years, otherwise I would have had to repay the grant).
kieran222
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Not exactly true, you can have the necessary large game handling qualifications and be a registered business with the council but not be permitted to sell butchered carcasses.
Fair enough, if you've got that far then you could go the extra length to do so though.
kieran222
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My stumbling block was having to do annual water testing because I was on a private water supply. So it wasn't viable.
Take note @Tim.243: Ade didn't require your promptIf I feel I have something worthwhile to add to the thread I will do so. I don't need any prompting
Ade
shakey jake
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Why?
Chest shot deer often lose a shoulder or more so why would a dealer not reward the guy who turns up with a clean 100% carcass?
Votes! It's like the Payroll Vote.
They've either got to pay more for a head shot carcass, or less for a chest shot carcass. Which would you rather?
It's unreasonable to expect them to pay the same for both, when one will have a significant amount of waste (that they have to pay for the disposal of) and a much lower yield of saleable meat.
kieran222
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I butcher a lot of my deer and would always head/neck shoot anything I am going to butcher. I can't see why the game dealers would be any different in what they want to butcher.
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