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My mother took her much loved healthy terrier cross in for the recommended general and teeth clean the dog died under anaesthetic.
When the unexpected bill came through the post it included euthanising the dog!
 
Buchan said:
Neuter - the long standing advice was to spay to reduce mammary tumours and pyometra (womb infection). While these can be serious, they are treatable so there is a now a bit of a move away from this and there has been a recent report on the routine neutering of dogs and cats. If you might want a litter - leave her entire.
Vaccines - this sounds like the L2 v L4 for leptospirosis. L4 is recommended, which is the newer vaccine.
Dental - tricky. I've seen dogs with disgusting mouths live full lives, I've also seen how much they improve after removing diseased teeth. It can take a couple of hours to do, those teeth are tough to remove sometimes and it has to be under full anaesthetic. The ads you see for conscious scaling are a con
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I agree about the dental care, I have spent a fortune in the past on dental care for all my dogs at the vets, My late lurcher needed to have some of his teeth out as I could see he was in pain and I really don't mind spending money on them to keep them having a happy life as we also did with my wife's Shihtzu who passed not long after having her teeth out.
What I am annoyed about with this particular vet practice is the booster, One vet saying they needed it and another saying they didn't and didn't even seem to know what the wife was talking about regarding this new strain even though it was the practice that recommended it, This was also on top of another issue which I mentioned in a post a while ago where our vet wouldn't give them a booster during covid even though they were open so we had to get them another full vaccination.
 
Rake Aboot said:
Buchan
I’m sure you e seen my posts about vets in the past , including the ones about my lurchers teeth.

Can you explain such a vast difference in costs between vets in East Lothian and vets in the Borders ?

It beggars belief and reinforces a culture of money first and as much as possible.

To recount, vets up here , 12 yr old lurcher. Quoted for 7 teeth out. Several vets ( all had to be coerced into quoting without a consultation fee btw). Costs between £1700 and £2000. ( several vets remember)

Works completed in the borders. 12 teeth out plus aftercare plus puppy initial health check puppy pack and worming for my 3 dogs

£570

As I said. Beggars belief.

To add. 1 weeks antibiotics up here £145. Down there £22
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I can give lots of reasons, but I’d be speculating. They are businesses and will have different costs and structures. One may be paying good wages, the other not, one may be offering clinical excellence, the other not. Don’t read anything into that as I’ve seen expensive practices pay unqualified staff very little and cheaper ones pay staff well.
 
Buchan said:
I can give lots of reasons, but I’d be speculating. They are businesses and will have different costs and structures. One may be paying good wages, the other not, one may be offering clinical excellence, the other not. Don’t read anything into that as I’ve seen expensive practices pay unqualified staff very little and cheaper ones pay staff well.
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And vet practice's are not only in these different forms of business models that for sure.
 
SimpleSimon said:
A consultation at the vet is cheaper than an engine diagnostic at the garage, they're friendlier and they don't take your dog at 8am, then call you at 4:55 to say they haven't got around to it yet.
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Your vet might not but my vet did so we have been down that road as well a few years ago, Dogs not ready to come yet we will have to keep her in for another night for obs because of the miss diagnosis between diabetes and cushings disease which cost us a lot of money for a lot of months but that is another story.
 
Buchan said:
I can give lots of reasons, but I’d be speculating. They are businesses and will have different costs and structures. One may be paying good wages, the other not, one may be offering clinical excellence, the other not. Don’t read anything into that as I’ve seen expensive practices pay unqualified staff very little and cheaper ones pay staff well.
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That really doesn’t cut it I’m afraid .

The practices were easily comparable , fair enough ones in East Lothian may pay more rent but seriously! you think that’s a reason for those vast differences?

My speculation is more along the lines of Borders vets work with farmers who balk at a tenner to look at a sheep compared to Lothian vets dealing with idiots with a £3000 fanny licker ball of fur who’s “ worth the world to me innit “
 
Rake Aboot said:
That really doesn’t cut it I’m afraid .

The practices were easily comparable , fair enough ones in East Lothian may pay more rent but seriously! you think that’s a reason for those vast differences?

My speculation is more along the lines of Borders vets work with farmers who balk at a tenner to look at a sheep compared to Lothian vets dealing with idiots with a £3000 fanny licker ball of fur who’s “ worth the world to me innit “
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I don't know their business models, staffing levels or ethos so I can't comment any more than the reasons I've given.
 
Rake Aboot said:
That really doesn’t cut it I’m afraid .

The practices were easily comparable , fair enough ones in East Lothian may pay more rent but seriously! you think that’s a reason for those vast differences?

My speculation is more along the lines of Borders vets work with farmers who balk at a tenner to look at a sheep compared to Lothian vets dealing with idiots with a £3000 fanny licker ball of fur who’s “ worth the world to me innit “
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That made me giggle.

I have to admit, although I appreciate the fact that vets (as any other profession) need to earn a living, I despise the way most offer "handy payment plans" for routine things such as jabs/worming/flea & tick, plus if you're on a payment plan you receive x % discount on other treatments etc.

I don't want to pay monthly, I am happy to take the hound in when required and pay at the time, but am disadvantaged by not signing up to the payment plan.
 
Buchan said:
Neuter - the long standing advice was to spay to reduce mammary tumours and pyometra (womb infection). While these can be serious, they are treatable so there is a now a bit of a move away from this and there has been a recent report on the routine neutering of dogs and cats. If you might want a litter - leave her entire.
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I had my lab bitch done today based on that advice and never planned on having a litter.

Cost me £340.
 
So a slight change of plan from my OP, My younger dog has just come into season and we have decided that we will not be mating her so we are going to get her spayed, I have phoned around a few local vets and I'm surprised at the difference in price, Dearest vet was £370 and the cheapest is £260 and that is for everything and no extra charges, these vets are all roughly within 3 mile of each other, anyway we need to wait for a while but I will be going ahead as she is feeling right sorry for herself at the minute and I don't want her going through this every few months.
 
Ive just had to put my very best mate down ,a Lab , was last friday, haven't had the bill yet, and that's an emergency appointment as he was in a lot of pain, dreading the bill, as if i wasn't miserable enough
 
One of the reasons is that the Private Equity Bastards ( I can say that I used to be one) are running a Buy and Build strategy to buy up lots of little Vets for not a lot of money into one big business and drive up profits. Easiest way to drive up profits is to just put the prices up. If you can "sell up" (ie sell things that people don't really need) then great.

However, the humans frankly are also their own worst enemy. How much for dental work? Tell 'em you can get a nice shiny new dog for that money and they soon stop ****ing about.

I used a vets in Aberdeen who were passionate about small animal surgery. Guess what ? The solution to every problem was small animal surgery !

Blairgowrie Vets on the other hand are people who care about the animal, don't charge the earth and don't sell you something if they think it is a waste of time. If you don't live there then the drive is worthwhile.
 
How the f&@k can theu charge £544 non emergency appointment for putting down a dog ????!!!! 🫣😮😮😮

I’d be querying that big time

Paul
 
Buchan said:
I'm sorry to hear that. Before I comment - was that at home or surgery and has it included private cremation or home burial?
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At home with cremation, but still £250 more than same vet charged us a few years ago. Just seems an awful lot
 
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