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That article is a bit topical for me. The app may prove handy for more than a few 'out bush' type Aussies. Having a compression bandage on hand is a good idea. I was like a boy scout and fully prepared for snake bite when I got bitten because I was already wearing mine. I'll explain..... I wear compression stockings on my lower legs because of fluid retention...its an old fellas issue... so when the snake hit me the rate of absorption and distribution of the venom was slowed down right from the get go. This explains why I became progressively and slowly, increasingly sicker over a couple of days rather than than a full venom load hitting my organs in an instant, full on wave would do to me.

The issue for me was that the venoms slow absorption and distribution rate created a multiple and diverse range of seemingly unrelated symptoms....10 in total. This in turn led to confusion as to what the problem was.

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CAVHUNT said:
I wear compression stockings on my lower legs because of fluid retention...its an old fellas issue.
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After doing bothe achilles over the last dozen years i have had a swelling issue and bought Temu compression socks...they work a ****ing treat. I have them on atm. Im sitting at the shed bench and stuck my foot up for the pic.

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As a kid I visited a centre in Australia that was extracting venom from various snakes to be used to produce antidotes. Watching the snakes invenomate through the rubber top on the collection jar, and seeing just how much they can produce, was chilling. The very thought of being tagged brings me out in a chill
 
Mountain Bug said:
We have some quite nice snake boots over here. Would you like me to send you a pair?

Scott
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Gaiters are worn here more than high boots Scott.
I took these pics one lazy Sunday arvo. Tiger snakes are deadly ****s.
The snake stars in the ad,it is a very big fat tiger too.
I bought a pair of Cab`s snake boots nearly 20 years ago and have hardly worn them.

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Tiger snakes are deadly ****s.
The snake stars in the ad,it is a very big fat tiger too.
I bought a pair of Cab`s snake boots nearly 20 years ago and have hardly worn them.

I got curious about snake toxicity so did some reading.
On a world scale Tigers are number 4 or 5. No 1 is Australias Taipan. No. 2 is the Eastern Brown. Too bad my Brown wasn't a Black. Way less potent than Tigers and Browns. One of our most common snakes encountered in sambar country is the Red Bellied Black. It's about number 9 or 10.

Out in the scrub some time ago one of my Weimaraners grabbed an adult RB Black one morning about 12 inches down from its head. He was a fully trained HPR gun dog. His training was that once he had something in his mouth he never put it down. So here he is... trying to hand deliver this by now thoroughly ticked of snake who is trying to get me when he gets close. I'm backing away from them, he's trying to get close so as to hand me the snake. Talk about exciting times. While all this is going on the snake is also turning around biting the dog on the inside of his mouth. With his blood being flicked every where it was a dramatic situation. Eventually I got him to drop the snake which promptly high tailed it out of there. The dog had been bitten four times. Off to the vet we went and a truck load of dollars later he was back home and was his normal self.

This was the last time one of my dogs ever got bitten. I devised a snake aversion training technique which worked.

I too have gaitors and like you John I never use them. Too bad I didn't....sigh.
 
CAVHUNT said:
The dog had been bitten four times.
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I`m thinking that the envenomation probably wasn't severe as dogs are very susceptible to snake venom.
My own dog that was struck didn't last long enough to get to a vet.
Anyway reminds of an old dogman Alan McNutt that I spent many days foxhunting,pig hunting and `rooing with 40 years ago. I listened with interest as he related the tale of one of the stags (staghound/lurcher) that hurdled a farm fence and landed on a big brown that wrapped two coils around the dog and commenced to bite as the dog bolted screaming in terror as the snake bit the **** out of him...100 yards dead as.

Yes,well aware that the death was exacerbated by the dog pumping the venom all through its body in quick time.
Re Black Snakes, I have a tale to tell about old mate John Nicholls that was struck and only survived as he had two doses of anti venene. The doc said "I gave him one and thought nah he`s gone so I gave him another and he survived"
 
John Gryphon said:
Gaiters are worn here more than high boots Scott.
I took these pics one lazy Sunday arvo. Tiger snakes are deadly ****s.
The snake stars in the ad,it is a very big fat tiger too.
I bought a pair of Cab`s snake boots nearly 20 years ago and have hardly worn them.

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For some reason I've always wanted a pair of snake boots but can't justify them. We have rattlers here but they're not nearly as plentiful, it seems, as the ones you fellas have to deal with. In some areas yes, but not at my elevation. Biggest problem we have is curious livestock that get bit on the face causing their airways to swell and close.
A neighbor that lived several hundred feet lower in a snake prone area had a trapper come in and was removing over five hundred per year for several years running. We had once considered selling up and buying that ranch until we heard those numbers. Funny thing, it was located in the bottoms of Deadman Creek. That should have raised some alarm bells.


Scott

Scott
 
John Gryphon said:
I`m thinking that the envenomation probably wasn't severe as dogs are very susceptible to snake venom.
My own dog that was struck didn't last long enough to get to a vet.
Anyway reminds of an old dogman Alan McNutt that I spent many days foxhunting,pig hunting and `rooing with 40 years ago. I listened with interest as he related the tale of one of the stags (staghound/lurcher) that hurdled a farm fence and landed on a big brown that wrapped two coils around the dog and commenced to bite as the dog bolted screaming in terror as the snake bit the **** out of him...100 yards dead as.

Yes,well aware that the death was exacerbated by the dog pumping the venom all through its body in quick time.
Re Black Snakes, I have a tale to tell about old mate John Nicholls that was struck and only survived as he had two doses of anti venene. The doc said "I gave him one and thought nah he`s gone so I gave him another and he survived"
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Are they rife across all of Oz?

Considering Melbourne (Victoria) or NSW… never know. Sister in law lives in Perth but they’re quite anti-shooting now it seems and a bit hot for me.
 
Hope you have ye snake-proof gaiters on too..........

...and can I hire some of ye gaiters if/when I get down to Underside of World?
 
John Gryphon said:
I`m thinking that the envenomation probably wasn't severe as dogs are very susceptible to snake venom.
My own dog that was struck didn't last long enough to get to a vet.
Anyway reminds of an old dogman Alan McNutt that I spent many days foxhunting,pig hunting and `rooing with 40 years ago. I listened with interest as he related the tale of one of the stags (staghound/lurcher) that hurdled a farm fence and landed on a big brown that wrapped two coils around the dog and commenced to bite as the dog bolted screaming in terror as the snake bit the **** out of him...100 yards dead as.

Yes,well aware that the death was exacerbated by the dog pumping the venom all through its body in quick time.
Re Black Snakes, I have a tale to tell about old mate John Nicholls that was struck and only survived as he had two doses of anti venene. The doc said "I gave him one and thought nah he`s gone so I gave him another and he survived"
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A fella I grew up with in Rhodesia (Zim) worked in the Cape for a while

He acquired a couple of Belgian shepherds

One got bitten in the cheek by some venomous snake - he said a boomslang

Anyway the poor fella survived but with severe facial damage and one very red eye

They all moved to the UK and took up residence in Chichester

I used to p**s myself watching the good folk of Chichester parting like the Red Sea when those two lads walked by

They looked like a pair of werewolves

J
 
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My now twelve year old has just told me that when he used to go "into the bush" with now my deceased father in law when in Nigeria to "find stuff" that he used to see snakes sometimes. But doesn't think that, unlike his mother when she went as a girl with my late father in law, that they managed to ever catch one.
 
John Gryphon said:
Gaiters are worn here more than high boots Scott.
I took these pics one lazy Sunday arvo. Tiger snakes are deadly ****s.
The snake stars in the ad,it is a very big fat tiger too.
I bought a pair of Cab`s snake boots nearly 20 years ago and have hardly worn them.

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Why don't you wear the gaiters? All those photographs that you take show thick undergrowth which I would have thought would have been full of snakes?
 
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