Waterproofing my waterproofs

Markymarkf

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Bought some seeland trousers ment to be waterproof, been out twice now both times came back with wet legs (thighs) mostly, jackets ok, not really heavy rain more drizzle, not sure how much is from sweat as it's been warm both times but defo not waterproof, I had to get them adjusted for length so any warranty would be void, my question anyone used fabsil gold to rewaterproof clothing..any other suggestions gratefully received cheers mark:)
 
Diver Dave repel every time



He does listings for multiple bottles too saving wee bit

Use it on tents & all my gear .....

Sister in-law did those stupid Ugg boots woman wear and they just shed water

Paul
 
Dave the diver get the big bottles smells the same as Nik wax i'v done all manner of stuff from carp tents to shooting gear and old dry'd out walking boots
bloody good stuff !!
 
Cheers guys 2 bottle of repel ordered and on route, I knew youd come through for me :) I'll let you know how I get on :)
 
The Seeland trousers will most probably have a membrane, be it effective or not. I am sure that an additional water repellant will do its job, but it's like wearing a belt and braces at the same time.
In this combination the membrane will only compromise the breathability of the garment.
If I wanted to use a repellant I would get something without a membrane.
 
Applied Dave's Repel to jackt and trousers yesterday as per instruction, brilliant water just runs off.. now off to find other stuff to waterproof.. hats, gloves, eyebrows, dog
Thanks guys :tiphat:
 
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Pit the item on a radiator or on back of a chair in the sun , get heat on it

That’s what helps “activate “ it


Paul
 
The Seeland trousers will most probably have a membrane, be it effective or not. I am sure that an additional water repellant will do its job, but it's like wearing a belt and braces at the same time.
In this combination the membrane will only compromise the breathability of the garment.
If I wanted to use a repellant I would get something without a membrane.

This isn't strictly correct. The membrane is what (should) give the garment its waterproof/breathable properties. Depending on the quality and design it might be bonded to the outer fabric, giving the appearance of a single layer of material, or it might be a separate liner. In either case, if the outer fabric becomes waterlogged and causes water to sit against the membrane, this will cause the garment to stop "breathing" and quickly results in a clammy, cold feeling. In most cases this is what's happening when people think the membrane is leaking. Reproofing the face/outer fabric stops it from absorbing rain water and allows moisture that's been "breathed" through the membrane to escape to the outside.
So for best results, you need a membrane and you need to proof the fabric.

I've used a lot of products and recommend Diver Dave's above the rest.
 
I popped them in tumble drier for a few mins before applying the spray, this seemed to work a treat :)
These trousers do have a loose membrane inside, the water was saturating my knees and getting through as I sat (flat surface no run off i suppose)
Should be good now though :)
 
Thanks Guys, Well yesterday i was like a kid with his chemistry set. I am working on a new version of Repel, with a midge / tick repellent added. I have managed to get one where the mix does not separate out, which is kind of phase 1 completed, that was a major concern, as although it never separates in normal use, a change in PH can make it separate. I treated my own trousers, hat and smock, and then tested the water repelling aspect of it, and that is still working perfectly and unchanged, i was concerned that it may have some interaction, but that appears to be fine. I think i may increase the active ingredient of the water repellent, as i think the insect repellent certainly diluted it a bit, but that will be easy enough to do.
Next phase was to make sure the water repellent does not coat or cloak the insect repellent, and i found that the new mix certainly kills flies and spiders, and when wet on my jacket, dispersed a wee swarm of midges under the trees in my garden, however that was with the coating still wet and uncured. That fact it works wet is no surprise - its like saying an insect repellent repels insects, that is not really a surprise. So the next stage is to see how well it works now it is fully cured. I need to confirm that the water repellent does not coat or cloak the insects, so next week i have 3 days shooting organised, and hope to pick us a couple of deer to see how the tick behave when dropped onto the jacket, that will be really interesting, and i hope it works well. I have some fabric treated with the insect repellent only and will compare the results, to see if there is a difference. Our problem is we just dont have the funding to pay for expensive trials, and am not actually bothered about looking into it, it will either work or it will not. We will do a load of work on the safety and toxicity of it, again, i am sure it is fine as the test fluid was simply commercially available tick and midge repellent, and i just diluted it with my Repel mix instead of water, so unless there is some interaction i am missing it will be as safe as the commercially available insect repellent.
I am not sure if it will ever be a product we will sell, or if i will just use it myself and let my stalking friends use it, the testing and product liability costs could be huge, and i am not sure if we could be sued, if as an example someone got lymes whilst wearing treated clothing. I am guessing no, but it may not be worth the hassle. Anyway, i was just puddling about with it and hope it works, i will keep you posted with any results i can achieve next week - good or bad.
 
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