What are the benefits of having DSC 2 ?

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TikkaFan

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What are the benefits of having DSC 2 ? I`ve got DSC 1 and considering DSC 2 but the only benefits I can see so far is the possibility of stalking on Forestry Commission land ,it looks like by the end of the day there will be no change out of a grand.
 

N1mr0d

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If you are relatively new to stalking, as I am, pursuing DSC 2 is a natural progression to re-enforcing what has been learnt in DSC 1 and gaining valuable practical experience, assuming your AW ever gets back to you - J - hope you are reading this.
 

jcampbellsmith

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...pursuing DSC 2 is a natural progression to re-enforcing what has been learnt in DSC 1 and gaining valuable practical experience, ....

N1mr0d.

Thanks, you have a much better handle on words than I will ever have. It's a natural progression at any stage of your stalking career, be it after 1 year or after 60 years.

Regards JCS
 

Jezza308

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Hi TF My syndicate of 4 took over 1100 acres of Wiltshire with the owners condition that all members already have Level 1 and work to achieve DSC2. I know that estate owners are rightly concerned about safety/public liability and want to be sure that people creeping around on their land carrying full bore rifles can be trusted to be safe. DSC1 and 2 are about their only guarantee that this will be so. I did my DSC2 simply because I wanted the extra qualification, experience and confidence; I was fortunate that 2 years later I was invited to join this newly forming syndicate (partly I believe because I had the qualification as well as 15 years experience).
I would advise anyone hoping to obtain, especially lowland, ground to take the DSC2 test. I am really glad that I got it and have never regretted it, for me it is a worthwhile investment in your sport opportunities. Cheers
 

TikkaFan

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You can do it for a lot less than £1k, and I think you have a very narrow view of what the DSC2 is,

I don't have a full view of DSC2 at all hence I asked about the benefits , do lease let us know how it can be done cheaper than £1k.
 

willie_gunn

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At over £1k it appears to be an expensive ego trip, with DSC 1 you are actually taught something but DSC 2 seems to be just showing you learnt?

DSC2 is a practical based qualification. So you're showing not just that you learnt something, but that you can consistently reach the required standard based on demonstrating both knowledge and competence.

No one is forced to do DSC2, but many find it rewarding. With almost 5,000 individuals having attained the DSC2 standard it hardly classifies as an "ego trip", but neither does it imply that you're somehow part of the stalking elite.

It doesn't require any greater level of marksmanship than DSC1 either, so no bragging rights from that perspective either ;)
 

TikkaFan

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DSC2 is a practical based qualification. So you're showing not just that you learnt something, but that you can consistently reach the required standard based on demonstrating both knowledge and competence.

No one is forced to do DSC2, but many find it rewarding. With almost 5,000 individuals having attained the DSC2 standard it hardly classifies as an "ego trip", but neither does it imply that you're somehow part of the stalking elite.

It doesn't require any greater level of marksmanship than DSC1 either, so no bragging rights from that perspective either ;)

:tiphat:
 

bewsher500

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Its the deer equivalent of the Advanced Driving test!
Insurers love it

Its a paper based confidence inspirer...for both you if you want it to be and more importantly the people who are engaging you to do something.
Its a standardized reference point

No-one I know feeds the wheel through their hands like they expect you to do on the driving test....but they know how to do it the have to!
 

s.stimson

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Both the BDS and Jelen provide a service where you can do your DSC2 for under £600, personally the DSC1 teaches you a lot but it does demand that you can actually do anything the DSC2 is used that you have not just attended the DSC1 but learnt, understood and can put into pratical use everthing that you have learnt.
 

Chasey

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At over £1k it appears to be an expensive ego trip, with DSC 1 you are actually taught something but DSC 2 seems to be just showing you learnt?


I have just done it an it was £160 to register you have three years to do it and you need three witnessed stalks so basicly you need to go stalking with someone able to sign off on a stalk extract & gralloch as part of your normal paid stalking experiance.


With many people doing this for free or a paultry sum like £25, you could get DSC2 for under £250


I paid £550 for two days stalking four stalks at Eridge Park with Andy Papworth

Nothing 100% guarenteed but getting on a deer at Erridge is about as guarenteed asit gets. I did three stalks and got three deer, Job done

SO I did it the expensive way if you like and it didnt cost me 1000. It was £710 all in but id rather do that than faf about for months on paid stalks trying to get it finished

I got DSC2 for the sole reasion of opening doors for new permisions especialy on Woodland Trust land & Forestrey comision Land

ATB
 

JabaliHunter

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What are the benefits of having DSC 2 ? I`ve got DSC 1 and considering DSC 2 but the only benefits I can see so far is the possibility of stalking on Forestry Commission land ,it looks like by the end of the day there will be no change out of a grand.

I don't have a full view of DSC2 at all hence I asked about the benefits , do lease let us know how it can be done cheaper than £1k.

if you pay for stalking, it costs as much as the number of stalks required to cull 3 deer and demonstrate best practice (or knowledge thereof). In that respect, it costs nothing (apart from the registration fee), as you would be going stalking anyway.
 

willie_gunn

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if you pay for stalking, it costs as much as the number of stalks required to cull 3 deer and demonstrate best practice (or knowledge thereof). In that respect, it costs nothing (apart from the registration fee), as you would be going stalking anyway.

A very good point.

When I did my DSC2 I was paying for stalking anyway, so other than the registration fee the only real additional cost was the £10 admin fee at the time for each witnessed stalk.
 

Chasey

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I got my £1k figure from here http://jelendeer.com/pre-dsc2.php and here http://www.jelendeer.com/dsc2.php

Registration £160
Pre DSC 2 £250
DSC 2 £599
Travel & Accommodation ??


What do you want a pre DSC2 for :D

Nice little eraner that

If you have done DSC1 & shot a few deer you prety much know what you have to do

I just did my course local and drove there every day for the two days jst like I would if I were going stalking which is basicly what I was doing with a few questions tacked on the end.

Its not a training course.

In theory you learn nothing on DSC2 its just a practical assesment of your DSC1 skills and check up on your knowladge in practice.
 

rutland

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I did mine through the BDS and I think it was £525 all in apart from accommodation, even though I have my own land it thought this was good value and I should have done it all in a day but had to take the next morning to finish it. I feel it is a natural progression from the dsc1 and when there is so many people after stalking you have to do everything in your power to sell yourself , but that's just my own opinion
 

Tackleberry270

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If you have done DSC1 & shot a few deer you prety much know what you have to do[/QUOTE]

In theory. Yes. But DSC2 is not a theory assessment. It is measuring your practical skills and applied knowledge against a set standard. For this you will need to be sufficiently familiar (with practical experience) with the entire process of getting a deer from the field and into the food chain . Shooting a few deer will not give you this experience.

I know there are a few providers out there that will nurse you through the Level 2 having very little prior experience but they let the side down as it falls short of DMQ standard.

At over £1k it appears to be an expensive ego trip, with DSC 1 you are actually taught something but DSC 2 seems to be just showing you learnt?

DSC1 is head knowledge with no practical experience required. DSC2 is a practical test, having learned how to apply the theory (across a wide range of topics) to the point you are confident you can demonstrate it.
 
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