I'd second @BigT's 3 and I've been firing solely TTSX copper for a long time now, including a deer legal .243 80gr TTSX load from a 20" Sako 75 (see solid copper thread). No experience directly of big game (and no interest) but I doubt too that .375 HH will disappear either.
What calibres would choose to future proof against ammunition supplies
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As good as the 7x57 is, I can't say that I'd fancy facing off with "dangerous Game" with a 7x57 ?
8x57
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Far from being pedantic, the two terms have entirely different meanings.
If what you are seeking is which cartridges are likely to be more readily available in the event of an ammunition shortage then my suggestions would be without resorting to handloading that the following should cover all the bases -
12 Gauge
.22lr
.223Rem /5.56mm
.308Win / 7.62mm
.375H&H
This of course will depend on what part of the world you find yourself in but you could also consider the following as they are well represented in many countries usually bearing in mind past colonial associations or being previous military cartridges used by those countries.
7,62x39
7.62x54R
.303Brittish
.30-06
.30-30
6.5x55
9.3x62
8x57is
Jura
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W.D.M. Bell, who hunted over 1,000 elephants, became a legendary figure in part due to his success with the .275 Rigby (7 x 57 Mauser).
8x57
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From what I've read his choice of rifle was more dictated by limited ammunition availability. Plus he cheated and crept right up on the elephant and virtually stuck the rifle in the elephant's lug hole. The guy must have had some cahoonas!
Ever heard of Bell, hundreds of Elephants, buffalo's, Rhino's with 7x57,.303, even 6.5x54 (256 Gibbs). Shot buffalo with .22 to make herd stand then cut loose with 303 for skins to make donkey saddles for tusks. But those days Men were Men.
Scipio
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308, the creedmores, especially the 6,5, 22 lr, maybe the prcs, let's see. Maybe the 300 win mag too. Of the european ones the 7x64 and the 9,3 x62 will likely also stay popular.
That is what i think might stay popular and easyishly gettable in shops. As some has already mentioned, if the market was rationality driven, a lot of the old european cartridges, made for long for caliber bullets with long throats and pretty low twist rates barrels, like the 6.5x 55 or 57 and the 7x57 should also really fit the non lead era well, but i just doubt they'll become popular. Let's see if there isnt soon a 7 mm creedmore, to try and kill of the 7mm08 and 7x57.
That is what i think might stay popular and easyishly gettable in shops. As some has already mentioned, if the market was rationality driven, a lot of the old european cartridges, made for long for caliber bullets with long throats and pretty low twist rates barrels, like the 6.5x 55 or 57 and the 7x57 should also really fit the non lead era well, but i just doubt they'll become popular. Let's see if there isnt soon a 7 mm creedmore, to try and kill of the 7mm08 and 7x57.
Crept right up, I think if you look into it you will find that Bell was an uncannily good shot, I knew one or two PHs in my youth and they were a;so uncannily good, but they would admit that by all his contemparies standards he was outstanding in his field. He used the Rigby and other rounds using long solid rounds which had very high penetration.From what I've read his choice of rifle was more dictated by limited ammunition availability. Plus he cheated and crept right up on the elephant and virtually stuck the rifle in the elephant's lug hole. The guy must have had some cahoonas!
David.
facotry ammo wise i find that most RFDS will not order in ammo specifically unless in big lots / numbers as not worth their while on costs
reloading different .
Paul
Norfolk Deer Search
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That’s simple dont do vermin -
7x57end of , no then for a hep of rifles clogging up the cabinet.
Dangerous game got no interest absolute zero interest in doing it so that’s really am no starter
Norfolk Deer Search
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7x57 I shoot a 7 mm 150gn bullet at 2350 ft./s killed everything I’ve poked it at, 18” barrel too and after harvest when I can get to my range, I’m going to get 150gn copper running through it too
Norfolk Deer Search
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Having read the original question again, the only real answer is to reload!
Stock pile bullets, primers and powder then problem solved.
Stock pile bullets, primers and powder then problem solved.
Essexsussex
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I agree. It would have been quicker for the OP to learn to reload than read this thread which will go on and on and not really conclude.
Rifle would be .308W, .223Rem & .22LR. Shotgun 12g. Basically because the two c/f rifle cartridges are civilian versions of military ones, .22LR is the most prolific of the rim fire cartridges & ditto the 12g for shotguns.
nun_hunter
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My local RFD is pretty good and will add almost anything to an existing order he's got upcoming. Granted, it's not worth ordering just two boxes of ammo to be delivered but if he's putting in an order with say GMK in a mo th he'll happily add on 2 boxes of something they stock and hold it for me.
tackb
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first response by someone who actually read the question !
he did not ask what your favourite cartridge is , he asked about future proofing his choices
Yes, Jura mentioned him a couple of posts earlier, followed by more info by 8x57.
So my question, is if YOU found yourself confronted with a lion, elephant, or buffalo etc', who was about to charge/attack, would a 7x57 be the rifle you'd choose to protect yourself, or those around you ?
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