what rifle to get
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shotguntom
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just been down to m local gun shop and the owner suggested instead of buying a .270 that i go for a 308 instead. i explained i want to use it for pigs, hill stalking as well as roe and muntjac that i will mainly be shooting. he seemed to think it is better suited to what i want to do and said that there shouldnt be any problems getting it on my certificate ( which i dont have yet ) if they were going to grant me a .270.
any thouhts on this, and if it is a better choice?
any thouhts on this, and if it is a better choice?
mereside
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i would think it comes down to a personal choice really they all kill deer , i havnt had a 308 but everyone rates them .what i would say is make a choice and stick with it .just so you are not swayed by your feo when you sit down for a chat be shure what you want and why you need that calibre,atb wayne
shotguntom
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they both seem to be a good calibre, and im not to fussed about which i apply for. which calibre will i be able to get a better deal on with a budget of £400?
boar & deer
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i love the .308 for all my shooting from fox to boar but now i have been ivited to fance for boar shooting im having to buy another rifle so think about that and it will probly be a .270 abolt or howa
nothing in it really, both great calibers, great access to factory ammo of all sorts of brands, bullets, and weights, up and down the country.
I'd say pick the rifle that you want to own, that fits you, looks nice, inspires confidence when you hold it, and which is in great condition with no faffing about (bedding jobs, weird triggers, may need re-crown, re-barrel, etc. etc. etc. ), then apply for the caliber or caliber change.
Personally, just personally, I'd say .270, 30-06, .308 should be considered. There's slightly less factory 30-06 ammo kicking about in the lowland and border shops, but still available though. 'I' would go for a BRNO, Parker Hale, BSA or 'ideally' a Sako that has less than 1000 rounds through it, IMVHO. Look out for the BRNO/CZ ZKK's, they sometimes go for a BARGAIN because their owners can't get them to group - this is because the front tip can squeeze against the barrel and disturb the barrel harmonics. 20 minutes with sandpaper and a drop of oil to seal will have it grouping sub 1" in no time. I picked one up with less than 100 rounds through it, immaculate! paid £150 I think, first box were struggling on an A4 paper at 60 yds...a bit of sanding to clear the 'touching' area in the barrel channel and it shoots like a dream...man if the seller just knew, they'd be kicking themselves very very hard!
I'd say pick the rifle that you want to own, that fits you, looks nice, inspires confidence when you hold it, and which is in great condition with no faffing about (bedding jobs, weird triggers, may need re-crown, re-barrel, etc. etc. etc. ), then apply for the caliber or caliber change.
Personally, just personally, I'd say .270, 30-06, .308 should be considered. There's slightly less factory 30-06 ammo kicking about in the lowland and border shops, but still available though. 'I' would go for a BRNO, Parker Hale, BSA or 'ideally' a Sako that has less than 1000 rounds through it, IMVHO. Look out for the BRNO/CZ ZKK's, they sometimes go for a BARGAIN because their owners can't get them to group - this is because the front tip can squeeze against the barrel and disturb the barrel harmonics. 20 minutes with sandpaper and a drop of oil to seal will have it grouping sub 1" in no time. I picked one up with less than 100 rounds through it, immaculate! paid £150 I think, first box were struggling on an A4 paper at 60 yds...a bit of sanding to clear the 'touching' area in the barrel channel and it shoots like a dream...man if the seller just knew, they'd be kicking themselves very very hard!
another thing to bear in mind is that if you have a .270 all the highlanders will give you more respect...some say it's the only caliber they use, but I'm not so sure 
The other benefit is that since it kicks like a mule, you can use it as a defiblilator when you've got a cold-induced stroke laying in a -25 C frozen bog for 2 hrs in the middle of September
The other benefit is that since it kicks like a mule, you can use it as a defiblilator when you've got a cold-induced stroke laying in a -25 C frozen bog for 2 hrs in the middle of September
shotguntom
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thanks for the input. i am going to go with the .270. i have found a rifle that i like the look of, the tikka t3 hunter. does anyone have any experience with this. i have seen a few for sale 2nd hand around the £500 - £550 mark. also the remmington 700 seems to get good reviews
any thoughts?
cheers
any thoughts?
cheers
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pj1
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The other benefit is that since it kicks like a mule, you can use it as a defiblilator when you've got a cold-induced stroke laying in a -25 C frozen bog for 2 hrs in the middle of September
i have only fired a 270 once. a lovely sauer 202 but the only thing that spoiled it was the kick and the bleeding ears
shotguntom
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haha yes i am! i used a blaser .270 out in poland stalking roe and boar without one and after that i will definatly be getting one! i didnt find the kick as harsh as its made out to be tho
Overlay
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Yep I had a .270 ONCE, after I picked up me fillings,answering the phone when it wasn't ringing, ordered a hearing aid, had the discolated shoulder reformed after that no problem.
I had a BSA 270 and boy it was a harsh rifle. couldn't wait to get rid of it after a seasons stalking. not one for me
Phil
I had a BSA 270 and boy it was a harsh rifle. couldn't wait to get rid of it after a seasons stalking. not one for me
Phil
jay 22
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same here i heard there really bad. mine has a 20 inch barrel and ase mod and isnt that bad at all
Pine Marten
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I'm surprised by the number of people who suggest that the .270 kicks like a mule. If it really was that bad, surely it wouldn't be as popular as it is? Also, perceived recoil is quite a lot linked to gun fit, isn't it?
Brithunter
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Methinks I have seen and read it all now as I have mentioned before one rifle I like for stalking is a BSA Majestic Featherweight in 270 Winchester. With out scope fitted it weighs 6 1/4lbs and with the alloy P-H rings, alloy tubed Lisenfeld 3-9x42 scope and leather sling it weighs 7lbs 12 oz:-
Using factory 150 grain Federal Fusion it's pleasant to shoot from all but the prone position, but that might be the old whiplash injury as prone is difficult for me now so ???, you might note that there is no moderator and in fact none of the rifles chambered for the 270 Winchester cartridge have threaded muzzles and all have standard BSA fitted recoil pads. I also have a Parker-Hale receiver sight as well as a Redfield and Lyman receiver sight that will fit on this rifle and have shot it using such a sight so then the rifle weighs perhaps 6 1/2lbs and once again recoil is more of a jump than kick.
If a rifle is really as bad or uncomfortable to shoot as on poster has said then there is a serious stock fit problem or a serious problem in your technique/stance.
Methinks I have seen and read it all now as I have mentioned before one rifle I like for stalking is a BSA Majestic Featherweight in 270 Winchester. With out scope fitted it weighs 6 1/4lbs and with the alloy P-H rings, alloy tubed Lisenfeld 3-9x42 scope and leather sling it weighs 7lbs 12 oz:-
Using factory 150 grain Federal Fusion it's pleasant to shoot from all but the prone position, but that might be the old whiplash injury as prone is difficult for me now so ???, you might note that there is no moderator and in fact none of the rifles chambered for the 270 Winchester cartridge have threaded muzzles and all have standard BSA fitted recoil pads. I also have a Parker-Hale receiver sight as well as a Redfield and Lyman receiver sight that will fit on this rifle and have shot it using such a sight so then the rifle weighs perhaps 6 1/2lbs and once again recoil is more of a jump than kick.
If a rifle is really as bad or uncomfortable to shoot as on poster has said then there is a serious stock fit problem or a serious problem in your technique/stance.
Tackleberry270
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My first rifle was a .270 and I still have it now. It is very light and I shoot 130gr bullets through it. You start to notice it on your shoulder if you are shooting round after round on the range but when out culling I never notice it as I find myself so engrossed in placing the shot. I must have shot well over a hundred deer with it before buying another calibre. I don't think you can really compare it to a big game rifle!
I have quite a few years experience seeing the different gun makes and models brought by guests on our Estate in Glos. The one make/model which stands out as the worst in my opinion is the synthetic stock remmie 700 series in .243.
A lot of new chums buy them from dealers as their first gun 'cos they are cheap and are disappointed by the fact it usually takes homeloading to get good accuracy.
As has been said above, a good clean CZ/BRNO ZKK or BSA is twice the gun at half the price!
At the end of the day if a chap asks for advice on this forum, it is important that he can feel that the advice we give is based on actual experience and not hearsay. As a caveat I would say try before you buy.
Regards Nick
A lot of new chums buy them from dealers as their first gun 'cos they are cheap and are disappointed by the fact it usually takes homeloading to get good accuracy.
As has been said above, a good clean CZ/BRNO ZKK or BSA is twice the gun at half the price!
At the end of the day if a chap asks for advice on this forum, it is important that he can feel that the advice we give is based on actual experience and not hearsay. As a caveat I would say try before you buy.
Regards Nick
Neither of my c/f rifles are chambered for .270 but I like them both a lot, they were both second hand, both £500 or less (with a moderator thrown in). One is a Heym SR20 in 7mm08 and the other is a CZ 550 "standard" in .243. Both are wood stocked. I wouldn't be keen to swap either of them for a Remington (or anything else for that matter)
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