Wiring lights in a garage
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countrryboy
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I can top vss's larder of 1 plug.
I run my kennel off 1x13A plug, about 100m odd of 2 5mm twin and earth cable ( just normal plug ring circuit cable) hung and baler twined to trees.
And that powers an 8.5kw electric shower!!
The out building where socket is is on a modern fuse board.
An Rcd plug on the cable.
And modern fuse board in kennel. ( i do have a big armoured cable buried most off the way to kennel but never got round to finishing it.)
Way I figured it worst that would happen is 1 of rcds would trip or cable got too hot.
But I definitely would not advise it in a building.
Could off been like that a good few years now (5+yrs)
Shower doesn't get much use really, and I do just run it on 1 so 1/2 heat, so really just lukewarmish.
But takes the chill out for washing mutts.
I put shower tray at sort of high knee hieght, bloody great thing.
Dogs can jump up and I'm not bending down too much
I run my kennel off 1x13A plug, about 100m odd of 2 5mm twin and earth cable ( just normal plug ring circuit cable) hung and baler twined to trees.
And that powers an 8.5kw electric shower!!
The out building where socket is is on a modern fuse board.
An Rcd plug on the cable.
And modern fuse board in kennel. ( i do have a big armoured cable buried most off the way to kennel but never got round to finishing it.)
Way I figured it worst that would happen is 1 of rcds would trip or cable got too hot.
But I definitely would not advise it in a building.
Could off been like that a good few years now (5+yrs)
Shower doesn't get much use really, and I do just run it on 1 so 1/2 heat, so really just lukewarmish.
But takes the chill out for washing mutts.
I put shower tray at sort of high knee hieght, bloody great thing.
Dogs can jump up and I'm not bending down too much
2.5mm t&e can carry about 27 amps before suffering, (depending on how installed) surprised the 13A plug top fuse doesn't blow though, although if only short usage on half heat may get away with it... time current curves for bs1362 fuses allow them to run for a while."over current" before failing.
countrryboy
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Cheers Tricky
Must admit i knew it was well dodgy ( even by my standards
)
when I ran the cable.
And like everything I had great plans to get the armoured cable buried and connected up.
I never even tried it on full power, thought no point never thought it would do, but it mibbee would.
Was enough heat in it dogs were quite happy.
And even then ur only getting dog, then rinsing shampoo off so not long spells off use
Really just powers lights, power washer and kettle in hard frosts.
Must admit i knew it was well dodgy ( even by my standards
)when I ran the cable.
And like everything I had great plans to get the armoured cable buried and connected up.
I never even tried it on full power, thought no point never thought it would do, but it mibbee would.
Was enough heat in it dogs were quite happy.
And even then ur only getting dog, then rinsing shampoo off so not long spells off use
Really just powers lights, power washer and kettle in hard frosts.
The worst thing that could happen is you have exported the house earth potential down to an outbuilding and possibly exposed youself (or others) excessive touch voltages during a fault back at the house. The RCD on this circuit provides no protection against that. I’d get the armoured cable installed, earth the armour and cpc (thats the green and yellow core) at the source end only. The outbuilding will need an earth electrode to create a separate TT earthing system.
It will need testing and certification by a qualified person.
countrryboy
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Cheers.
To be fair it's the only thing right I have done ( well possibly).
Got consumer units and earth rods in both the outbuilding and kennels.
Just out buildings for my own use so won't be bothering to get inspected
U boys must read some of these posts a just shake ur head and cringe.
The lack of knowledge some of us have ( me included) or worse a little bit of knowledge.
Just enough to get u fried
I fact u very spurred me on to get my finger out and get that cable buried.
My mates a spark i ll get him up to just double check stuff.
Got another plan for this year or next anyway so will need some advice of him.
Hopefully go to try and go completely off grid, solar and a hilly Billy hydro bodge.
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On the subject of earthing, here's one for you:
My mains electric fence unit is earthed to a stanchion in my livestock building, and I can feel the pulse of the fence through all the plumbing in my house. It's not too bad unless you happen to have bare feet when you turn on a tap....
It’s a dark art - there are people out there who make a good living out of pretending to understand it!
It amuses me in that I have a few friends who are sparks in different parts of the country and a couple have helped at various times when I have rebuilt outbuildings. Everyone of them comes up with different 'rules' or 'regulations say you must', and says the previous one was wrong to do x they would have done it a different way.
I had an extension done and then solar, 1 month apart, when their sparks inspected..... both said I needed a new Distribution (fuse) board... one said plastic then a month later had to be metal. ( or vice versa)!
I had an extension done and then solar, 1 month apart, when their sparks inspected..... both said I needed a new Distribution (fuse) board... one said plastic then a month later had to be metal. ( or vice versa)!
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