Would like to thank Parcelforce for taking care of my Steyr CL2! I think they must have used it as a trampoline!
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London Jaeger
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That will buff out with some polish
What on earth did they do to manage that? That must be a hell of a knock to cause such damage. I hope they are covering all the hassle.
Proper PITA when you get attached to rifles. I have some that I don't care too much about but others that I would really hate to meet an end like yours. Best of luck getting it sorted.
Proper PITA when you get attached to rifles. I have some that I don't care too much about but others that I would really hate to meet an end like yours. Best of luck getting it sorted.
enfieldspares
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It is said that there are "antis" that work is some depots that will deliberately smash anything they think is connected with "hunting" (for which read actually shooting).
I would therefore actually consider making a complaint of criminal damage to the police as such damage is difficult (although not impossible*) to cause by accident in a mail sorting facility. Only by deliberate act or by negligent act. In theory all depots will nowadays have extensive video surveillance. So I'd urge making a complaint to the police. Others that have suffered the same might be worth asking for details of similar incidents?
* Items over a certain length will usually be set to one side as "exceptions". That is they don't travel through the system but are placed with other over long or very heavy items to one side in large cages. Thus if negligently put into a cage a long item might have a heavy item placed (none too gently) on top of it which will snap it in half. But it takes a certain type of deliberate negligence to do such.
My own gut feeling is deliberated act has done this as Royal Mail don't carry items of sufficient weight to cause such a problem of too heavy an item placed on top of your parcel.
I would therefore actually consider making a complaint of criminal damage to the police as such damage is difficult (although not impossible*) to cause by accident in a mail sorting facility. Only by deliberate act or by negligent act. In theory all depots will nowadays have extensive video surveillance. So I'd urge making a complaint to the police. Others that have suffered the same might be worth asking for details of similar incidents?
* Items over a certain length will usually be set to one side as "exceptions". That is they don't travel through the system but are placed with other over long or very heavy items to one side in large cages. Thus if negligently put into a cage a long item might have a heavy item placed (none too gently) on top of it which will snap it in half. But it takes a certain type of deliberate negligence to do such.
My own gut feeling is deliberated act has done this as Royal Mail don't carry items of sufficient weight to cause such a problem of too heavy an item placed on top of your parcel.
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Andy seatrout
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I’ve had fishing rods ‘disappear’ from the Liverpool facility for Hermes in Liverpool ( a reasonably expensive Thomas & Thomas Spey rod) tracked all the way across the USA and then disappeared???
I’ve had another rod be delivered which had the tarmac rash on the tube where they’d run it over with a van…..
I’d suggest that it’s been run over, no manner of treading on it or dropping it would have caused that damage…. I feel your pain….
I’ve had another rod be delivered which had the tarmac rash on the tube where they’d run it over with a van…..
I’d suggest that it’s been run over, no manner of treading on it or dropping it would have caused that damage…. I feel your pain….
VonBlitz
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It did! From Pembrokeshire to Swansea and on to London.
VonBlitz
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Full refund from the shop. They will make a claim to Parcelfarce.
VonBlitz
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It's all been sorted and the shop will seek to reclaim their end via a claim.
enfieldspares
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It may be worth someone, somewhere, doing a Freedom of Information request to see...on a depot by depot basis how many firearms have been damaged.
One of the customers I work with attach tracking devices (about the size of an iPhone, and either single-use or multi-use depending on the product being shipped) to their equipment as it is distributed around the world.
As well as delivering real-time GPS positioning the device can also measure temperature and humidity, along with incorporating an accelerometer for measuring any impact shock.
In the example above it is extremely high-value network equipment, which they can't afford to be delivered to remote sites only then to find it is unservicable because some idiot of a logistics worker dropped it.
However the devices themselves are not that expensive, and can be rented at a reasonable price based on a given number of shipments per month.
I am wondering if there is a market for attaching these devices to firearms as they are shipped through the Parcelforce network? One obvious benefit is that it would allow any damage to be notified in real-time, effectively identifying exactly where it took place. I imagine even the suspicion that such tracking devices were being used, let alone the publicity attached to one or two actual examples, would be sufficient to deter any ongoing intentional damage.
Do firearms dealers have a professional trade body or association?
As well as delivering real-time GPS positioning the device can also measure temperature and humidity, along with incorporating an accelerometer for measuring any impact shock.
In the example above it is extremely high-value network equipment, which they can't afford to be delivered to remote sites only then to find it is unservicable because some idiot of a logistics worker dropped it.
However the devices themselves are not that expensive, and can be rented at a reasonable price based on a given number of shipments per month.
I am wondering if there is a market for attaching these devices to firearms as they are shipped through the Parcelforce network? One obvious benefit is that it would allow any damage to be notified in real-time, effectively identifying exactly where it took place. I imagine even the suspicion that such tracking devices were being used, let alone the publicity attached to one or two actual examples, would be sufficient to deter any ongoing intentional damage.
Do firearms dealers have a professional trade body or association?
yes GTA gun trade association.
VonBlitz
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According to the shop, there was no damage to the box. Hard to believe they could drop it that hard to shatter it.
To be expected if you ship a firearm in a single skin cardboard box. If you want something to survive shipping put it in a Peli case fully supported so it will not move around inside. Lost count of the number of times I’ve received guns in the cheapest plastic case or cardboard box just rattling around.
VonBlitz
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From the single pic posted. It may not appear well packaged. But I can assure you it was. I even received a similar rifle in the same box.
The packaging wasn't the problem, but I was refunded fully for the rifle so all is good.
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