Parker hale rifle - Zeiss scope

[tom]

Morning ,could do with some advice or help with this one please ?
My best mates dad passed away a year ago and he left him his rifle . Now there is a lot of sentimentality with this rifle as we both shot our first deer with it . He was my stalking mentor .
It has a really high grade walnut stock which came from the Parker hale factory as he went and chose it himself from a box back in th 80s .
We have however had a a nightmare in trying to put a new scope on it .
It had the original nikko sterling gold crown scope on it since new and to be fair was still holding zero , they don't make them Like that any more ! However my mate wanted to up grade so bought a new 30mm Zeiss scope . We put it on and could not get the windage far enough over !
The mounts are not in correct line !!
So what do we do ????
We have new 30 mm rings .
Advice please ?
Thanks

 

[bewsher500]

what rings are you using?

cheapest option are Leupold Windage adjustable bases (any rings can be sourced to match tube and height requirements)

Leupold 2 Piece Standard Rifle Base - Optics Warehouse

centre the scope windage (full right on turret, count total clicks to full left and wind back half number to centre)
Then use windage screws on rear base to adjust as close to zero as possible, then use a few clicks.

which nikko stirling was on it?
if you ever decide to sell it let me know!

 

[deeangeo]

Are there any windage screws on the rear scope mount base? If not, as Bewsher says the best course of action is buying new bases/rings with that facility.

 

[Conure]

Does anyone else find this odd that the Nikko Stirling scope was zeroed and held zero yet the new expensive German scope will not zero and it' is the rifles fault????

If as it is claimed that the action is not drilled correctly how come the old Nikko zeroed. To me it sounds like the newly purchased stuff is at fault either ecope or new mounts.

 

[sir-lamp-alot]

conure i dont think the op is claiming its the rifle or the scope which is at fault its just a mounting issue

 

[bewsher500]

Some scopes have wider range of windage than others

 

[enfieldspares]

I think it maybe that the original 'scope was packed on one side of the mounts. Or...more likely the new 'scope has run out of lateral adjustment because its elevation is set at maximum.

Easiest answer is to count the clicks available with the reticule adjusted so the elevation sets the reticule exactly in the middle of the heigt of the 'scope.

 

[Southern]

Burris Posilign rings have polymer inserts which are eccentric, so they can be turned to shift the neutral point of aim up, down, left or right by quite a few MOA.

 

[Loki]

Awhile back now I recall a Gunsmith saying some Parker Hale rifles having misaligned base mounting holes, so second the use of Burris Signature Zee rings with poly inserts. As said below separate inserts from those supplied provide a variety of off-set options.

 

[Moonraker68]

Give Norman Clark Gunsmiths a ring - 01788 579651 - they're Parker Hale specialists.

 

[deeangeo]

Awhile back now I recall a Gunsmith saying some Parker Hale rifles having misaligned base mounting holes, so second the use of Burris Signature Zee rings with poly inserts. As said below separate inserts from those supplied provide a variety of off-set options.

Wow, really? that's real quality manufacturing if true!

 

[Bandit]

Give Norman Clark Gunsmiths a ring - 01788 579651 - they're Parker Hale specialists.

+1 he'll sort it

 

[tom]

Thanks guys most comments are most helpful , conure if you have nothing useful to say don't say it at all !!!
I am not claiming any thing just stating our problem !!!
I am certainly not Blaiming the rifle so get a life for Christ sake !
It would appear that the Zeiss is obviously a more expensive finely tuned piece of equipment that the 30 year old nikko .
I will be ringing Norman Clark for advice ,thanks to everybody who has offered constructive advice .
Tom

 

[8x57]

Tom that's perhaps being a bit harsh on Conure mate. Depending on which Zeiss scope you are talking about he may have been on the right track. I know that several have reported problems with the cheaper Zeiss scopes in the no too distant past but those problems have usually been lack of elevation rather than windage adjustment.
The solution could be as others have already suggested i.e. either windage adjustable bases or Burris type rings with the offset inserts.

 

[Taff]

Very common in parkerhales and BSA , I did 2 last week you just need something like millet angle lock rings, make sure you adjust both, as on severe cases you could bend the scope, surprising as it may seem, the old niko sterling scopes were fine, it says something about modern scopes.

 

[bewsher500]

Very common in parkerhales and BSA , I did 2 last week you just need something like millet angle lock rings, make sure you adjust both, as on severe cases you could bend the scope, surprising as it may seem, the old niko sterling scopes were fine, it says something about modern scopes.

Millet mangle loks
worst rings ever.....

 

[25 Sharps]

Tom that's perhaps being a bit harsh on Conure mate.

Just a bit!

 

[25 Sharps]

Millet mangle loks
worst rings ever.....

Especially if you don't get given the instructions with them

 

[Taff]

Depends on what you have on the shelf, not much demand here in NZ for adjustable rings, another option is to change the rails as sometimes they were not drilled square, rem700 will fit.

 

[VSS]

I tried to put a 30mm tubed scope on my P-H, but couldn't get the new mounts that came with it to sit straight on the bases, with the result that the 'scope was all over the place.
Gone back to a 1" tube in the original P-H rings, and it's fine.