Not a lot of people know this but. 30-06 is really unstable at close range. So much so the bullets bounce off.
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Not a lot of people know this but. 30-06 is really unstable at close range. So much so the bullets bounce off.
greville1689
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8x57
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This could always be verified by someone who is a true believer of this little known fact standing 25 yards downrange and acting as a human target. For safety's sake they will of course wear a duffle coat or donkey jacket.
new forest
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Old mans gun...
Dorsettaff
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You're just jealous.......
You KNOW you want one!
Better than those pesky .243 and .270's
You KNOW you want one!
Better than those pesky .243 and .270's
This could always be verified by someone who is a true believer of this little known fact standing 25 yards downrange and acting as a human target. For safety's sake they will of course wear a duffle coat or donkey jacket.
Good idea but 30-06 is so unstable at close range because the bullets go really really fast that it would take ages to actually hit a man sized target at 25yds.
I. Farticus
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bewsher500
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This could always be verified by someone who is a true believer of this little known fact standing 25 yards downrange and acting as a human target. For safety's sake they will of course wear a duffle coat or donkey jacket.
Thats not fair
everyone knows Donkey Jackets are stronger than Kevlar !
Heym SR20
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Has some good points - 140 gn bullet is probably more than sufficient for most deer. The fact that he claims that the 6.5 is more efficient and carries more energy at 6 to 700 yds than the 300 win mag is irrelevant to deerstalking.
Where the 300 Mags come into their own is on big deer and antelope in open areas and with 200 and 220 gn bullets, a big thumping load for large game up close. Craig Boddington in Safari Rifles does say he doesnt feel there is a huge amount of difference between 30-06 and 300 win mags in terms of killing power, just that the mags add another 50 or so yards to point blank range and make hitting targets at a longer range that bit easier. The trouble with most 300 win mags, when it comes to using them as big game rifles, is that many that I have seen are more stocked and set up as long range sniping / target type rifles rather than fast handling big game rifles.
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Really???
tackb
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it depends what speed you can launch those slippery 6.5 projectiles , my 260rem is within 50ft/lbs of a 180grain 300wm at 1000m , but it's much easier to shoot obviously.
Heym SR20
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That's what is being claimed in the Video - as I commented retained energy at several hundred metres is irrelevant for deer stalking purposes.
bewsher500
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Does it balls...
260 rem 140gr BC 0.585 at 2800fps
velocity at 600yds - 1941 fps
energy at 600yds - 1172 ft/lbs
300wm 180gr BC 0.4 at 3100fps
velocity at 600yds - 1612fps
energy at 600yds - 2008 ft/lbs (almost double the 260 rem!)
drop the weight of the 300wm and up the MV of the 6.5 and you get close but no cigar
6.5-284 140gr BC 0.585 at 2950fps
velocity at 600yds - 1362 fps
energy at 600yds - 2022 ft/lbs
300wm 150gr BC 0.415 at 3400fps
velocity at 600yds - 1444 fps
energy at 600yds - 2082 fps
the only way to skew the results in favour of the 6.5 are to use the extremes of the 6.5-284 and the heaviest slwoest 300wm
The real comparison is inside 400yds where most shots are likely to be taken
stupid comparison
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