BASC says don’t pay medical fee

I would say that there are plenty but until the police get awarded costs even when they have miserably lost, or unless you are financially able to fund a case, its not going to happen

Ian

Errr, isn't that what BASC is supposed to do? Fund the case?
 
I would be getting my shooting org onto that 3 monthly phone call criteria !
Firstly ask your FEO why & if they haven't asked for it , I'd ask your doctor what hell they are up to

Paul
 
You now dont send the filled in renewal back to Licensing as per I have always done. It is collected when the FEO come to check your cabinet and weapons.
 
You now dont send the filled in renewal back to Licensing as per I have always done. It is collected when the FEO come to check your cabinet and firearms.

Refer to your kit as the bold highlighted, that may be why Police Scotland are investigating your medical issues because you seem to thing you have weapons at home!
 
Refer to your kit as the bold highlighted, that may be why Police Scotland are investigating your medical issues because you seem to thing you have weapons at home!

Brimfire - stop being a *****, the 1968 Firearms act uses the terms firearms and weapons interchangeably.
Reynard has bigger problems to deal with than semantics.

Cheers

Bruce
 
Brimfire - stop being a *****, the 1968 Firearms act uses the terms firearms and weapons interchangeably.
Reynard has bigger problems to deal with than semantics.

Cheers

Bruce

A satirical take on what is obviously Police Scotland going beyond the Home Office remit for firearms licencing. I think I have been called far worse than the profanity filter has edited, for your lack of using proper English etiquette. But that went way over your head!
 
Ok. I have an apology to make. I did not give any paperwork that was downloaded from the web site that has the renewal paperwork. My Wife has just corrected me. The paperwork to hand to the Doctor came with the initial Police letter, Pointing me to the web site to download the relevant Paperwork.

The letter they sent, states. As part of the renewal process. You Must have this letter delivered to your GP. The FEO will not attend and undertake the enquiry until this letter has been provided to your GP and a response received. I must stress that failure to ensure that this letter is provided to your GP timeously may lead to delays in the renwal process and your Firearms and or Shotguns will have to be placed in storage until the outcome of the renewal enquiry has been considered. It must be noted that your GP may charge for this service. This Fee would be borne by you as the applicant in all cases.
 
still waiting for my gp records whitch will cost me 10 pounds
when i get them phone the private gp surgery that is 12 miles away
take them to private surgery for gp to look at them
go back 1 week later for gp to hopefully sign had ms for 20 years
this will cost me 115 pounds
grand total 125 pounds
you have it lucky in england
regards robert
 
Robert

I have no illnesses that warrants charging me £200. I have no health issues at all. Both practices working side by side have agreed to charge the same amount of £200. I was told by my Doctor that part of the requirement is that She has to contact me every 3 months to check if my health has changed. Her concern was that Certificate holders will stop coming to the Doctors surgery for fear of losing their certificates.
 
Robert

I have no illnesses that warrants charging me £200. I have no health issues at all. Both practices working side by side have agreed to charge the same amount of £200. I was told by my Doctor that part of the requirement is that She has to contact me every 3 months to check if my health has changed. Her concern was that Certificate holders will stop coming to the Doctors surgery for fear of losing their certificates.

What has your shooting organisation got to say about this? I trust they are fully informed and are in correspondence with police Scotland.
 
I am not a member of any shooting organization at present. I have seen first hand how the BASC fail to help people. I will be joining the NRA once my probationary period is over and I join the Full Bore Rifle shooting Club. My interest being in FTR.
 
My Co terminus Cert is due for renewal on the 15th of January. Downloaded all the paper work to complete the renewal. No longer sending out the paper work for you to complete. There was 3 pages that I had to hand to my Doctor. I did hand them to my Doctor. The reaction was not the best one to be honest. Lot of complaining about the Police asking for this, without consulting any General Medical Council. I was told that this could take a while to be sorted before she could fill in the forms. She said she had no issues completing the paperwork in favor of me getting the renewal. The issue was with how much the Practice charges for doing the paper work.
I was told that my Doctor has to call me every 3 month period, to ask how my health is. This is all taking up valuable Doctors time.
Roughly a week after giving her the paper work. I received a letter from the Practice at Peebles Health Center. I thought my Wife was having a Joke when she read out that they would be charging me £200, for to sign the paperwork and the 3 monthly calls. It was no Joke. There is two practices work out of the same Health center. They have both agreed to charge the same amount. Yet another way to try and put people off getting a Certificate. What next?.

Reynard. This is not right. There is no requirement for a 3 month checkup, phone call or anything else. The new proceedure is that the form is sent to you and you are asked to take this to the Doc so they can add a 'read code' to your notes and they are then asked to send it back (the Police used to send this to the Doctors but now they ask you to take it along).

Your Doctor is wrong as the Police and the Home Office did consult with the GMC and the BMA and it was invisaged that there would be no cost. Some Doctors disagreed with this and after the intial meeting/agreement and Police Scotland had introduced the scheme, the BMA did a U turn and said that Doctors could change "if they wanted too".

There is no reccomended/set fee so the Doctors can essentially charge what they want.

£200 is plain wrong (IMO)
My advice would be to reply to the Doctor (in writing) stating that you are "not willing to pay £200 for them to complete the form, add the read code to your notes and return the form to the Police".


You should then contact the Cheif Constable, Phil Gormley (again in writing), telling him what has happened and ask him to "intervene" in what you beleive to be unnaceptable cost in renewing your SGC/FAC.
You should write these two letters as soon as possible.
 
I am not a member of any shooting organization at present. I have seen first hand how the BASC fail to help people.
I can't comment on your observation other than to say that I have been in Contact with Dr Colin Shedden (Scotland) <Colin.Shedden@basc.org.uk> who is looking closely at this situation and he too would be interested in hearing from you.
 
Wouldn't get your hopes up regarding the NRA,I emailed them a couple of weeks back regarding this.They replied they were aware but as none of there members had complained,there was nothing to do at the moment.
 
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Originally Posted by Brimfire
Errr, isn't that what BASC is supposed to do? Fund the case?

Thats what i thought...

Lets imagine that you have the money ..... what is your 'case' exactly ??
 
BASC or one of the other shooting organisation are waiting for an application to be refused before an appeal can be made.
Assuming the police refuse the appeal, the applicant can take the case to court.
BASC or another shooting organisation can support the applicants appeal by providing legal advice and legal representation at the court case.
I would have thought that BASC would be the most likely organisation to provide legal assistance since I think they are financially the strongest of the shooting organisations. It's my understanding that, in cases like these, if the appeal fails, then BASC would pay costs for both sides, but if they win they will still have to pay their own costs.
Obviously, BASC would only support such an appeal for one of their members and not for someone who is not a member

Cheers

Bruce
 
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Originally Posted by Brimfire
Errr, isn't that what BASC is supposed to do? Fund the case?



Lets imagine that you have the money ..... what is your 'case' exactly ??

My case is that it annoys me when the powers that be can dictate and make up rules....im not at the renewal stage..
 
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