Carcass disposal

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deerstalker.308 said:
Sorry, but can you tell me where it says its illegal to dispose of raw meat in your general waste dustbin? I fail to see how this is right, household waste is just that, waste generated by the house, which would surely include raw products being disposed of. Granted different kettle of fish to regularly dumping whole animal carcasses in ones bin but seriously, I find it hard to believe that 'technically' disposing of a chicken carcass in ones bin is not legal.....?
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Raw? yes technicly its an issue, cooked it isn't

Its an extremely grey area

The rules stipulate you should dispose of the waste in the area the animal was shot in order to prevent accidental spread of diesise. SO if you drive 50miles to shoot a deer and 50miles home. then you butchere it and the bin man takes it another 30miles to the dump, you have transported the potential diesese 80miles and broken the law.

You should also have taged the waste and recorded its transport to a registered waste site.

However all the rules to enfoce this are related to registered food buisneses?

In theory of course all deer stalkers would be registered as food buisnes if they are selling the deer carcus on to a game dealer.

I am registered as a food business so I had to do the reserch

But if you think I am wrong, answer your own question and phone up your local bin collection company and tell them your dumping deer skin heads legs and skelliton and see what there reaction is.

Getting away with it, does not make it legal

I find it bloody annoying that the whole Deer Initiative Web site is full of articles suggesting you read the "Disposal of deer by products " guide but the actual guide doesent seem to exist.

This I believe is because the whole issue is a potential minefield
 
Well, thats one way to go about it... but you could also leave it out for the panthers i am always reading about...

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Pine Marten said:
No, these pigs live in Brittany. They live mostly on scraps. That said, they are pets, no-one's planning to eat them. Unless they ever grow too big. I suspect their demise is more likely to come from being "mistaken" for boar though.
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Is that legal in France???
 
Which part? But the pertinent answer is almost certainly that my BIL doesn't think that he needs to think about these things...
 
2130martin said:
in this country it is illegal to feed animal by products to ruminants...is that not the case in France??
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Pigs aren't ruminants, but aside from that, yes it's illegal in the uk to feed animal waste or food waste to pigs. Even to pet pigs.
You're also on dodgy ground putting animal waste in the dustbin.
 
Chasey said:
Raw? yes technicly its an issue, cooked it isn't

Its an extremely grey area

The rules stipulate you should dispose of the waste in the area the animal was shot in order to prevent accidental spread of diesise. SO if you drive 50miles to shoot a deer and 50miles home. then you butchere it and the bin man takes it another 30miles to the dump, you have transported the potential diesese 80miles and broken the law.

You should also have taged the waste and recorded its transport to a registered waste site.

However all the rules to enfoce this are related to registered food buisneses?

In theory of course all deer stalkers would be registered as food buisnes if they are selling the deer carcus on to a game dealer.

I am registered as a food business so I had to do the reserch

But if you think I am wrong, answer your own question and phone up your local bin collection company and tell them your dumping deer skin heads legs and skelliton and see what there reaction is.

Getting away with it, does not make it legal

I find it bloody annoying that the whole Deer Initiative Web site is full of articles suggesting you read the "Disposal of deer by products " guide but the actual guide doesent seem to exist.

This I believe is because the whole issue is a potential minefield[/QUOTE
I think you are getting confused with pre and post processing and domestic and commercial preparation.
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VSS said:
Pigs aren't ruminants, but aside from that, yes it's illegal in the uk to feed animal waste or food waste to pigs. Even to pet pigs.
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This is a separate conversation but I have so far been unimpressed by my brother-in-law's animal husbandry. I mean he's supposed to be my son's properly rural uncle in France to keep him grounded in the countryside despite growing up in the big city, but frankly he's not a very good example. He's a fantastic baker and patissier though. I think he should subcontract the animals to his brothers...
 
Don't overthink it. Bag it discretely. If you can leave feet and head on your stalking ground nicely buried. I put fish bones, feathers, wings and bones into the bin. Triple bag it so it doesn't burst all over the street and don't draw attention to it.
 
Chasey said:
Phone them and ask about wild deer carcus in the food bin.

Actualy don't as you wont like the answer
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You need to take steps to offer them a chance to ignore it, they need plausible deniability. So as with many things, just be discrete about it. Obviously this supposes it's done one small scale, not day in, day out. Just once in a while is fine, no one minds.
 
If you are a food business and processing a carcase to that standard,then you must use an approved ABP disposal route. If you are a domestic premises processing a carcase to that standard,then the domestic waste route is acceptable(subject to the local council rules on what/how much can go into each bin/bag etc).
Once the carcase/cadaver has left the site where you shot it,you cannot then take back bits of the carcase to dispose of.....
Example-Fishermen that gut fish at sea can dump the guts over the side but once they have landed at port and process the fish they cannot take that waste back out to sea to dump.....
 
FFS don't get the council involved. Clipboard warriors have a habit of making up the rules as they go along and then imposing all sorts of conditions etc. I can walk into any butcher and by a rack of lamb, or a pig belly still with ribs of, or a shoulder with bone in. Bone it out - it goes in the bin. I bring home a carcass after stalking for my own consumption, the bits go in the bin. I am not even going to ask the question of "Clipboard Jobsworth".
 
Heym SR20 said:
FFS don't get the council involved. Clipboard warriors have a habit of making up the rules as they go along and then imposing all sorts of conditions etc. I can walk into any butcher and by a rack of lamb, or a pig belly still with ribs of, or a shoulder with bone in. Bone it out - it goes in the bin. I bring home a carcass after stalking for my own consumption, the bits go in the bin. I am not even going to ask the question of "Clipboard Jobsworth".
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Quite right too.
I was just trying to cover my reply for the clipboard worshippers...
What the eye doesn't see,the heart don't and all that!!
 
Chasey said:
How big are your food bins? Ours are 12" X 18" X 12"

It would take a few weeks to get rid of a deer carcuss off cuts

See the note on Food Buisness

Phone them and ask about wild deer carcus in the food bin.

Actualy don't as you wont like the answer
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actually our food waste goes in our family sized wheels bin (we don't have a separate one for food waste). I have clarified with the council that raw meat and bone coming from domestic butchery is allowed in this bin. END OF.


What goes in my bins? Babergh Mid Suffolk
 
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