Manchester Bombing, Not Good...................
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Unfortunately this will change nothing, there will be no Governmental retaliation, there's be no new laws, no clamp down on any race or religion. And the reason why, simply because it hasn't affected anyone of "importance". No children of ministers, MP's, high ranking civil servants etc.
We'll all be told to not let it get us down, don't give in to it, carry on as normal. And those who CAN change things will hide behind security as normal.
Shameful, but true.
We'll all be told to not let it get us down, don't give in to it, carry on as normal. And those who CAN change things will hide behind security as normal.
Shameful, but true.
Salman Abedi rot in hell , hope you get bunked up with Brady.
ChesterP
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Sorry, but imho that shows a complete lack of understanding of Islam and is simply naive. Those of the same race and religion helping out may believe in Allah and follow in their own way the teachings of Mohamad, but they are NOT the same. They may well all be under the umbrella of Islam, but the bare facts remain that there are other followers who have a different interpretation and are willing to continue killing all "infidels", non-believers, and anyone of the same race as those elsewhere in the world at odds with them. They were all welcomed in this country without the proper checks and measures (difficult to do) and they continue to radicalise members of the Muslim population to their cause and grow in number.
Make no mistake that we are not talking a small number of individuals that believe the same way. Only a small number that have so far carried out the attacks on UK soil. That doesn't mean "insignificant". I'd say 22 dead last night is pretty significant and should not be trivialised under the banner of political correctness and multicultural/secular BS. To bury our heads in the sand and say silly things like "lets make them see it doesn't affect us" is bonkers. OF COURSE IT AFFECTS US. They're killing innocents FFS! These scumbags need weeding out by the authorities and dealing with once and for all. Funding for the intelligence services has to be increased as does it for our armed forces and police authorities. There's nothing racist nor hateful about seeing things for what they actually are. People have grown ever more fearful about standing up for what is good and right for fear of offending some minorities in society, when the truth is, we should not tolerate some views nor some of these "minorities" being part of our society. The peaceful side of Islam can and should be tolerated and welcomed. The less peaceful should not.
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I tend to agree with you Rod, but when the IRA killed Mountbatten, who to me was high ranking, The authorities did sod all. You or I would have taken the Country apart to find his killer,but no, the "Powers that be" are always too PC and daren't upset anybody.
It's about time they changed, they won't, but I can see a hardening of attitudes among young indigenous English kids that will in the end vindicate and prove "Anoch's" prophecy.
The press are giving so much oxygen to these evil saddo's, how much loop can it merit?, responsible reporting is not what is going on here,The "people" who were lost as they describe, were not people, most were young adults, or in some cases barely children. It's seems to me to be another feeding frenzy by the types that have to stand outside some place that has no real time implication, like number ten downing st when no one is in.
teyhan1
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IF (and we don't yet know the whole story) this was done in the name of Islam then the terrorist (and possibly those people backing him) have seriously misjudged the British people.
Bombing our kids will just make us give our security services carte blanche to do whatever they need to do to stop them.
What's more is they will have the complete backing of the UK population.
They have achieved little apart from unleashing more wrath to rain down on them.
May it rain long and hard
Bombing our kids will just make us give our security services carte blanche to do whatever they need to do to stop them.
What's more is they will have the complete backing of the UK population.
They have achieved little apart from unleashing more wrath to rain down on them.
May it rain long and hard
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Whats this if pal, we already know who has admitted the atrocity we should forget about certain human rights towards some religious factions and start thinking about the carnage they have done all a over the world and start to stamp them out. At any one time just in the Dewsbury area there are a large number under 24hr survaillance.
"Only a small number have carried out these attacks...."
How many does it take to topple a government, to conquer a pacified population who don't want to bloody their hands fighting back?
Studies show that 10% of the Muslims are radicals who believe all infidels must be exterminated. Not just dozens every week, but ALL of us. So it is foolish to not sort out the wicked ones from the good ones - whether it is Islamic Jihadists or terrorists of any other ideology.
How many does it take to topple a government, to conquer a pacified population who don't want to bloody their hands fighting back?
Studies show that 10% of the Muslims are radicals who believe all infidels must be exterminated. Not just dozens every week, but ALL of us. So it is foolish to not sort out the wicked ones from the good ones - whether it is Islamic Jihadists or terrorists of any other ideology.
Firstly, my thoughts go out to all those involved. I think it must be terrible to have anyone, especially a young loved one taken like this. Doesn't bear thinking about. They all have my sympathy.
The thing to do here is not alienate a specific religion, a specific nationality or a specific colour. We need to alienate the terrorists and include everyone else. It's been said above, but Muslims aren't bad. Although there are bad Muslims. I'm no great Donald Trump supporter, but he said recently that those countries harbouring terrorists need to get rid of them. The same applies here. Any communities harbouring terrorists need to do the right thing.
The thing to do here is not alienate a specific religion, a specific nationality or a specific colour. We need to alienate the terrorists and include everyone else. It's been said above, but Muslims aren't bad. Although there are bad Muslims. I'm no great Donald Trump supporter, but he said recently that those countries harbouring terrorists need to get rid of them. The same applies here. Any communities harbouring terrorists need to do the right thing.
So will you accept that most terror attacks across the world are carried out in the name of Islam.
Or are you so far left that you cannot even face that fact?
But carried out in the name of Islam (like we see over and over and over and over again)
Sorry, but seriously?
When will you wake up to realise (admit) that it's always the same sex, religion and ethnicity.
teyhan1
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Do you know that this was done in the name of Islam or is this just a guess, going with the flow?
We know the guys name and yes his name is Islamic but as yet we don't know or aren't being told very much else. For all we know he could just be a plain old nutter with no religion involved.
Before I mark another attrocity down Muslim extremism, I want facts.
Thus the IF
its the modern version of the emperors new clothes. a competition to see who can come out with the emptiest platitude.
on my Facebook someone has just posted "share this picture of a pink balloon for Manchester".
Why is it that the leaders of these religions choose not to speak out? The likes of sadiq khan ALWAYS refuse to get drawn into criticising these acts.
Why is it that Muslims are the only faith that currently are associated with the now routine terrorising if western world.
Why is the same faith can be seen trying to impose their own beleifs on others. This can be seen in any major cities any day of the week. Just stand any female outside a mosque in a squirt and top and time how long it is before the abuse starts.
Why is the same religion now impose their own beleifs of how meat should be prepared on every other faith
Why is the same faith now impose their own laws Sharia laws on their communities that fall outside of the law of this land.
Why is it that there is such a resistance to accept the fact that it's always a Muslim.
Why can't you accept the fact it's ALWAYS Muslim males. We all know this well before it is officially confirmed......quite simply because it always is!
I so.ply don't beleive that others in the same community as this **** were unaware of his radical extreme views....yet there ahs NEVER been an example of the Muslim community actually informing any authority of this. WHY?!
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Roro
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What puzzles and alarms me is the unholy alliance between the far left, eg. sinn fein and the other marxist parties here in Ireland, the likes of Corben and George Galloway in the uk and the islamists. The left claims to want equality for everyone, womens rights and rights for gay people. Yet they support a stone age religion that treats women like dogs and gay people worse, public beatings and being slung off roof tops. How do they square that circle ?
Two Indonesian men caned in front of jeering crowd for having sex
Two Indonesian men caned in front of jeering crowd for having sex
Chasey
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There are a grand total of three passages in the whole of the Koran that say death to the unbeleivers
2.191 And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.
4.98 They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
4.91 You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority.
The Bible
Deuteronomy 13: 7-11 requires the killing of those who would serve other gods:If your brother, the son of your father or of your mother, or your son or daughter, … tries to secretly seduce you, saying, “Let us go and serve other gods,” … you must kill him … . You must stone him to death since he has tried to divert you from Yahweh your God.
John 15:6 says:
If anyone does not abide in me, he shall be cast outside as the branch and whither; and they shall gather them up and cast them into the fire, and they shall burn.
In Luke 19:27, Jesus says:
Those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them, bring them here and kill them in front of me.
I make that about 3 all?
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