ZKK601 ...detachable magazine or quick feed?!?

[HVM308]

Hi everyone

My father has a ZKK 601 308win rifle, not very modern looking but a good tool to put meat in the freezer.
Due to last year's accident when he shortened a bit his right thumb, he has now some trouble press rounds into the magazine.
To be clear from beginning he does not accept by any means to change that rifle! the end...

Is there a way to transform the bottom plate magazine to detachable ...?!?

Is there a way to adapt something like a open clip , to push 3-4 rounds into the magazine?!?

any advice is welcome

 

[Apthorpe]

As a left-hander, one very simple and entirely free solution leaps to mind.

 

[HVM308]

if you mean pressing the cartridges down with left thumb from under the scope...not sure, will give it a try , if i remember well he has some low rings on it, and is not much space left there, but thanks anyway!

 

[Apthorpe]

Try reaching over the scope and pressing in with left thumb. Or holding rifle crossing from left to right in front of body with right hand and load woth left. I must admit i didn't think of low rings.
Otherwise i'm sure there is some way of doing it. Perhaps with fingers of right hand and the thumb holding the stock. It's a case of being difficult changing an old habit more than being especially hard to find a method that works.

 

[Highlandsjohn]

if you mean pressing the cartridges down with left thumb from under the scope...not sure, will give it a try , if i remember well he has some low rings on it, and is not much space left there, but thanks anyway!

I have this very rifle and its not so easy to use the left thumb on a right handed rifle. I am a lefty and use my right thumb when loading mine.
Perhaps Edgar bros. could tell you if a detachable magazine was ever developed for the Brno full bore rifles instead of the bottom metal.
The bugger is, when you get these older rifles feeding you just don't want to change anything. Good luck.john

 

[ileso]

why not just load directly into the bottom and then close it? Fairly simple.

I have a 600 and its not hard to do.

 

[HVM308]

i'll go later to visit him, and will give it a try, thanks for idea

 

[Heym SR20]

I shoot left handed with left hand rifle. To load open bolt, hold it in left hand facing me and then I press cartridges in with fingers - always have done. On a right handed rifle I do the same. I have just tried opening floor plate and dropping in cartridges - you need to keep bolt closed, but very easy to do.

I have never used my thumb - I have always found tip of thumb catches on the far side of the action. It only works if there is a thumb cutout as in old military mausers.

Coverting to detacheable mag, well I find magazine harder to load even with good thumbs.

 

[Highlandsjohn]

I shoot left handed with left hand rifle. To load open bolt, hold it in left hand facing me and then I press cartridges in with fingers - always have done. On a right handed rifle I do the same. I have just tried opening floor plate and dropping in cartridges - you need to keep bolt closed, but very easy to do.

I have never used my thumb - I have always found tip of thumb catches on the far side of the action. It only works if there is a thumb cutout as in old military mausers.

Coverting to detacheable mag, well I find magazine harder to load even with good thumbs.

Thank goodness I don't have fat thumbs, do you have problems texting too.

 

[Heym SR20]

Thank goodness I don't have fat thumbs, do you have problems texting too.

Not fat per se - just long and long hands. Texting is a nightmare - less of an issue on a smartphone and thankfully happily married by the time mobiles really came into use. God alone knows how I would heve developed a relationship if I had had to rely on Texting to communicate.

 

[Highlandsjohn]

Not fat per se - just long and long hands. Texting is a nightmare - less of an issue on a smartphone and thankfully happily married by the time mobiles really came into use. God alone knows how I would heve developed a relationship if I had had to rely on Texting to communicate.

You are not alone there.

 

[ileso]

i'll go later to visit him, and will give it a try, thanks for idea

So did it work? I made a quick video showing it... was a bit difficult one handed, but you get the idea.
And yes the bolt is closed or the rounds will fall out.

 

[alberta boy]

So did it work? I made a quick video showing it... was a bit difficult one handed, but you get the idea.
And yes the bolt is closed or the rounds will fall out.

Good video , a friend of mine does the same thing with his scoped SKS . He's almost as fast as me using stripper clips .

By the way , nice rifle .

AB