Corbyn gun control

This ^ +1 , meaning Enfield spares previous post . What a lot of UK shooters perceive as stalking rifles , would get you jail time here . Moderators in any form are considered a prohibited device , possessing one will get you jail time . Shooting at night is also a chargeable offence and using NV gear while in pursuit of game is also a criminal act . Perception is the only difference .

What some of you call a proper stalking rifle , moderators , bipod , etc . would be decried as a SNIPER rifle by the anti hunting/ shooting crowd over here . According to them , the mere sight of one will cause hard men to faint and cattle to spontaneously abort . My point being , they don't like guns and they don't like people who do . They're not interested what style of firearm you own , or if it's traditional or not , they want them all gone ! It's quite simple , we all shoot , the more of us the better . When you start feeding each other to the Wolves , we're all done . Stand together or hang alone .

AB
 
Ownership of a gun in this country has to be associated with a purpose

Hunting or target shooting

Where does a 10/22 designed to look like a ZK 22 Bull pup come into this?

I love my sport and I respect target shooting and one day I see a picture of a ZK 22 Bull pup being shown on TV as the reason we need to ban all firearms access

I am always a little suspiscious of people who like that Rambo type design for a sporting firearm

Id like to see the back of them in order to protect our sport or the future

Is it me or does a classic hunting rifel design or even a modern hunting rifel design (Blaser Profesional for example) not eminate a sense of conservative ownership where as a AK47 look alike projects a sense of a nutter with a gun who really secretly wants to do a live version of call of duty

Anyway we digress

I think we are at nearly the minimum legal gun ownership in the UK

dissapointing comments, if you think that you will be safe in enjoying your type if gun if you allow other types to be vilified and banned then you deserve what will inevitably come to pass as yours are banned too.
i thought most mature shooters had got their heads around that fact after the last 30 years.
 
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dissapointing comments, if you think that you will be safe in enjoying your type if gun if you allow other types to be vilified and banned then you deserve what will inevitably come to pass as yours are banned too.
i thought most mature shooters had got their heads around that fact after the last 30 years.

I have to agree with Druid
if you don't like other peoples styles of shooting perhaps you should give up your own guns and take up knitting with
blunted knitting needles !!!!!
 
Not quite Roro. It's a lie. In effect they were going to de facto ban them. What Blair did made the Tory de facto ban a de jure (or a legal ban) and in so doing then ensured that full compensation for anything remotely connected with rimfire pistol shooting had to be then compensated. Under the Tories in respect of rimfire pistols it was both limited and at the Government's final discretion.

The Tory rimfire pistol law required that the things, rimfire pistols be kept in secure sites, that they could not be taken home or kept at home by the owners nor be taken away from the secure site for, say, travel to Bisley to shoot competitively in the NRA or NSRA Meetings. Or indeed for any other competitions.

It's a myth that the Tory rimfire permission would have allowed rimfire pistol shooting to exist in any meaningful form. For the secure sites were to be subject to onerous security requirements. Controlled access doors, CCTV, and in reality s5 hardening levels that are required for the few "heritage pistol" sites that do now exist.

And AFAIR that until those sites were inspected and approved that the rimfire pistols would have to be lodged with appropriate RFDs until they could be transferred to the sites.

Look at the proposed Tory rimfire handgun legislation. And remember what I've written about the secure site requirement. It wasn't at all, in any way, "carry on as before".

It was draconian and in the reality of the facts of the matter - de facto - a rimfire pistol ban. For ANY club that used a quarry range or that did not have a brick clubhouse with CCTV and 24/7 alarms and s5 security hardening would have failed the storage criteria of the Act. It was designed for "the few" and "the many" - you and I, the club shooter - would never meet the requirements


You can say and blame who you like but the current loony labour have every intention of banning all private ownership of firearms.

I can't tell you right now where you will find this in writing because I'm just off to the pub! But I can assure you it is.
 
Won't matter to me what his policy is. If he gets in I'm going to join the brain drain and find a country that will be worth running a business in.
 
dissapointing comments, if you think that you will be safe in enjoying your type if gun if you allow other types to be vilified and banned then you deserve what will inevitably come to pass as yours are banned too.
i thought most mature shooters had got their heads around that fact after the last 30 years.


Doesn't it worry you that me a gun owner and hunter / target shooter of 30+ years finds people who like Rambo look alike firearms scary?

If I think its an issue, what do you think the anti shooting crowd will make of it?

Its a bit like the anti car campaign with Chelsey Tractors. Gas guzzling monsters right? Except my Sohgun did more MPG than my wifes Saab 93 Turbo and had lower emissions but she never got "have you baught the right car" stickers on her window. Its all in the perceived image.

ATB

Chasey
 
Doesn't it worry you that me a gun owner and hunter / target shooter of 30+ years finds people who like Rambo look alike firearms scary?

No. They are just fellow shooters who have a different taste in what they enjoy shooting to that I currently do.
 
The public are scared of all guns Chasey, there is no need to sacrifice the scary ones to fend off criticism.
that was done in 1988 and 1997 and did not help shooters at all.
this sport is increasingly becoming an old mans pursuit and I can tell you that my boys get far more interested in using something like a military look alike than a wooden stocked blued masterpiece. If that makes them try and appreciate shooting then I don't give a monkeys if it looks scary to the pathetic people who would ban it on looks alone.
 
Chasey, you are an anti's wet dream. I saw your likes in '87 and '96. Shooters desperate to condemn other disciplines in order to make their own look 'reasonable' to the baying hordes. It was despicable then, and still is now.

Maybe you should take up the knitting as suggested above. The shooting community has enough enemies as it without the likes of you fighting their cause from the inside. We can do without your ilk.

Wolfie
 
Don't you know a wooden stocked, scope sighted rifle, in the media, is a snipers rifle ? The media have a vocabulary of their own, specifically for firearms, and pandering to it gets you nowhere fast. A 50 year old rusted up webley air pistol, used in a robbery, becomes a deadly 9mm glock or mac ten.
 
The public are scared of all guns Chasey, there is no need to sacrifice the scary ones to fend off criticism.
that was done in 1988 and 1997 and did not help shooters at all.
this sport is increasingly becoming an old mans pursuit and I can tell you that my boys get far more interested in using something like a military look alike than a wooden stocked blued masterpiece. If that makes them try and appreciate shooting then I don't give a monkeys if it looks scary to the pathetic people who would ban it on looks alone.



Yes I know the coment wouldnt win me any love in this crowd but it remains a genuine concern.

It was highlighted when I put a Arc Angel stock on my 10/22 as I am left handed and the pistol grip was easier to use. It probably the only rifel I own which always has the mod attached as well

My daughter whos used to seeing my several other rifles and shot guns, instantly declared it as scary looking.

Archangel Rifle Stocks Accessories


People whos counter is I should take up knitting should go get a life. If I say I don't like hard core rap music does that meen I should not listen to any music? But its the masognay violence rape and drugs in the content that people like Tipper Goore use as a tool to tar all rap music with the same brush.

Kids are desensatised to it and think we old folk are idiots

In the gun community are desensatised to the effect a supposedly legal fire arm like this:

Archangel Rifle Stocks Accessories

has on people who see it
 
I have a Gevarm E1 takedown rifle wit a red dot scope- to the anti gun crew, this would probably mean that I have unfullfilled dreams of becoming an assassin!

I disagree with a lot of things that Chasey posts (sorry Chasey, just a different perspective) but even I have to admit that, very occasionally, he does seem to make sense, even if it is in a convoluted and round-about way!

Perhaps, Chasey, if your rifle were painted pink (Hello Kitty design), your daughter might not find it so frightening, or threatening?

That was not intended as a ****-take; as has previously been mentioned, perception is everything - a biker on a 'Hog' wearing black leather looks threatening, the same biker on the same bike, wearing pink, would not!

I do not own any firearms that look like current military style weapons, but I have, for some time, been thinking about taking up practical rifle and/or shotgun competiton (not because I want to be John Rambo, but it is another challenge), and if (when) I do, then black/military style firearms would obviously be the most practical style to use.
 
The media has a lot to answer for, re perception. Prior to the handgun ban, the only clips of shooters were of those dressed in army surplus cammo, firing fullbore pistols at military targets. Within minutes of the Commons vote to ban hand guns, the first clip was of a dedicated smallbore target pistol being fired at a normal competition target.
 
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