So . . . .

[AN DU RU FOX]

I,m 63 been tough since i could walk, so i,m not expecting it to start getting better now.

 

[potshotpat]

so, is this the thread with the most posts ever? Maybe we should vote on it!

48% YES 52% NO

 

[jimmy milnes]

All funds from clients from the stalking go straight to the land owner and in exchange for stalking.

I have nothing to do with the money side of it at all.

I get invites to drive hunts for boar in Germany and my friends from the continent get free cwd and muntjac, that’s why I do it.

My last 2 trips to the continent cost tunnel fare and fuel nothing else, not for the want of trying to pay my way I assure you.

I pay for nothing on the continent and my guests pay nothing when they come to me.

As with regards to my job if I worked out my wage for the hours I do it would be below minimum wage hourly rate.

But it’s horses for courses, some crops are easy and others are not, it’s swings and roundabouts!

Sony Lee I'm not picking on you but let me get this straight.
You are to all intents employed by the farmer to take people stalking whenever he gets a booking ''which as your a trade member I presume you also sort out for him'' but you get no wages for this but in return are allowed to shoot a few for yourself?
Sounds like he's on a right earner off your free sweat matey.
Still if your happy to work for free I guess that's your business not mine.

 

[jimmy milnes]

so, is this the thread with the most posts ever? Maybe we should vote on it!

I like the fact that it's all been polite and civilised conversation

 

[User00014]

Sony Lee I'm not picking on you but let me get this straight.
You are to all intents employed by the farmer to take people stalking whenever he gets a booking ''which as your a trade member I presume you also sort out for him'' but you get no wages for this but in return are allowed to shoot a few for yourself?
Sounds like he's on a right earner off your free sweat matey.
Still if your happy to work for free I guess that's your business not mine.

You are correct, it’s not all about the money!

By this arrangement I don’t have the trophy fee of cwd bucks or muntjac bucks when my guests come.

Suits me just fine, also the land starts 50m from my front gate!

We all have our ways of obtaining and keeping our stalking, some pay for it, some get it for free and some don’t have any at all.

 

[JTO]

You are correct, it’s not all about the money!.

That's exactly how I feel about leaving the EU.

 

[jimmy milnes]

You are correct, it’s not all about the money!

By this arrangement I don’t have the trophy fee of cwd bucks or muntjac bucks when my guests come.

Suits me just fine, also the land starts 50m from my front gate!

We all have our ways of obtaining and keeping our stalking, some pay for it, some get it for free and some don’t have any at all.

Fair enough Lee like you say each to their own.

 

[nun_hunter]

I've known keepers in tied cottages who moan about not being able to save for a house while learning to fly light aircraft at £60 an hour and wearing Rolex watches and gold chains draped with sovereigns. Anyone in a tied house can buy a house to rent out and have all the tax relief as if they were living in it, IE, no capital gains tax to pay when it goes up in value, and is sold.
It's all down to priorities in life, but too many people realise they want to own a house about 10 years later than they could have.

I appreciate not all house prices in the UK are equal but a 2 bedroom bungalow in the village I live in starts at £350k and a 20% deposit required to get a mortgage with monthly payments below £1k/month. When already paying £850/ month for an ex council mid terrace house how can anyone save up £70k in any time frame before the original 20% has grown to over £100k.

It's not as easy as just saying people have their priorities out of wack and don't want to save. I could cut out every "luxury" from my life, sell all my hunting and fishing gear, stay at home and do nothing (or get a second job and never see my kids growing up) and in 15 years have enough for a deposit at today's current value. However in 15 years that £70k deposit would probably be half of what I actually need.

I've resigned myself to not buying a house unless my wife or I come into an inheritance (I'd rather have my parents around to spend time with my kids than their money) but instead I've got a small amount of money each month to do some nice things and have time with my family. Had I bought a house at 20 (accurately predicting the house price increase) I could probably be in a lovely house and still have some disposable income.

 

[Olaf]

That's exactly how I feel about leaving the EU.

So..... what are you hoping to gain from ‚leaving ‚ the European Union ?
Kindest regards, Olaf

 

[User00025]

Och we're doomed I tell you, we're really doomed. It's far worse than the war. How have I been able to live so long without the help of Germany and France. God help poor old Britain.

 

[AN DU RU FOX]

 

[User00014]

Yo

I appreciate not all house prices in the UK are equal but a 2 bedroom bungalow in the village I live in starts at £350k and a 20% deposit required to get a mortgage with monthly payments below £1k/month. When already paying £850/ month for an ex council mid terrace house how can anyone save up £70k in any time frame before the original 20% has grown to over £100k.

It's not as easy as just saying people have their priorities out of wack and don't want to save. I could cut out every "luxury" from my life, sell all my hunting and fishing gear, stay at home and do nothing (or get a second job and never see my kids growing up) and in 15 years have enough for a deposit at today's current value. However in 15 years that £70k deposit would probably be half of what I actually need.

I've resigned myself to not buying a house unless my wife or I come into an inheritance (I'd rather have my parents around to spend time with my kids than their money) but instead I've got a small amount of money each month to do some nice things and have time with my family. Had I bought a house at 20 (accurately predicting the house price increase) I could probably be in a lovely house and still have some disposable income.

You and I talk the same language!

 

[Blue400]

I think you'll find that chickem from Thailand already features in in a lot of supermarket ready-meals and their chiller cabinets, so how are things going to change ?

And that goes for Brazilian chicken also.....Atb blue.

 

[enfieldspares]

Yes, both Thai and Brazilian chicken comes in the UK. But they are subject to the EU tariff rate that enables chicken produced to the UK's higher and costlier standards of welfare and workers' wage costs to have an even chance to compete with it on price. After Brexit if it were to be subject to WTO tariff rate UK producers would lose that ability to compete with it on price and at the same time if they then sought an alternative market to sell to in the EU as they'd then now be subject to the higher EU tariff rate. So I personally don't care about 50p less for a sweatshop produced chicken when it'll put UK farmworkers on the dole and benefits or income support that we UK taxpayers will then have to pay for. It beggars belief that by this process...unsurprising since Boris Johnson is part of the same metropolitan elite as is Jeremy Corbyn....we will have underpriced our own producers' domestic UK market whilst, and at the same time, have overpriced them out of the alternative market they might then seek a mere twenty miles across the English Channel.

 

[kenbro]

That's exactly how I feel about leaving the EU.

Slightly ambiguous, JTO, but having read the whole thread I understand.
Regards,Ken.

 

[JTO]

So..... what are you hoping to gain from ‚leaving ‚ the European Union ?
Kindest regards, Olaf

As I've said before, it's not about 'gaining', especially short-term, it's about avoiding being dragged into what the Eurocrats are trying to form, a UESR.

 

[JTO]

I appreciate not all house prices in the UK are equal........ Had I bought a house at 20 (accurately predicting the house price increase) I could probably be in a lovely house and still have some disposable income.

That sums it up!
A 3-bed ex council house in ST5 will cost you c£80K and bring in £500 a month in rent, so the tenant buys it for you, providing you with a deposit for your southern bungalow.

 

[User00035]

As I've said before, it's not about 'gaining', especially short-term, it's about avoiding being dragged into what the Eurocrats are trying to form, a UESR.

I find it odd and rather alarming that there are people who still need to ask what advantages there are in living in an independent country governed by representative parliamentary democracy.

If the attractions of a free country where the people are sovereign eludes them, perhaps they could explain what is preferable about living under an unelected politburo in a soviet superstate where the people are ruled not represented and governance is a carve up between an embedded political elite and corporate business?

 

[Hornet 6]

So..... what are you hoping to gain from ‚leaving ‚ the European Union ?
Kindest regards, Olaf

Home rule, nothing more, no matter the cost financially its worth it to me just to kick the eu out of our lives for good.
But that is now not going to happen, thanks to people like you, who feel if we can no longer be members, we can at least adopt all the EU laws and regulations.

Neil.

 

[jimmy milnes]

Home rule, nothing more, no matter the cost financially its worth it to me just to kick the eu out of our lives for good.
But that is now not going to happen, thanks to people like you, who feel if we can no longer be members, we can at least adopt all the EU laws and regulations.

Neil.

That may be the case Neil but so long as we don't have to adopt the ones that are currently in the planning stages or yet to come I'll accept it as I see worse times ahead for the EU that what I see for Great Britain once we are out as I'm sure you do also matey.