So . . . .

[Woodsmoke]

I heard this radio advert this morning, asking all sorts of questions regarding Brexit . . . . .

-What will happen to my export business?
-Will I need a new passport?
-Will I still be able to live in Europe?

Etc, etc . . . . .

'Pathetic' radio ads stoke public fear of no-deal Brexit, says MP

What utterly baffles me (and I was, and still am, a firm member of the Leave camp) is that May, et al, have had over two years to get this ruddy mess sorted out, and now, two months before we actually leave the EU they're STILL running around with their heads up their own arses arguing and bickering amongst themselves.

How the bloody hell did we end up in the position of having these idiots in charge of government? I seriously doubt they'd be capable of organising a kiddies MacDonalds visit

 

[jimmy milnes]

I heard this radio advert this morning, asking all sorts of questions regarding Brexit . . . . .

-What will happen to my export business?
-Will I need a new passport?
-Will I still be able to live in Europe?

Etc, etc . . . . .

'Pathetic' radio ads stoke public fear of no-deal Brexit, says MP

What utterly baffles me (and I was, and still am, a firm member of the Leave camp) is that May, et al, have had over two years to get this ruddy mess sorted out, and now, two months before we actually leave the EU they're STILL running around with their heads up their own arses arguing and bickering amongst themselves.

How the bloody hell did we end up in the position of having these idiots in charge of government? I seriously doubt they'd be capable of organising a kiddies MacDonalds visit

Think I said it somewhere else in this thread woodsmoke
I'm a firm believer that from day one both our government negotiation team have been in cahoots with the EU negotiation team to drag it out to the eleventh hour then scare people about the negative effects of a no deal exit in order get people to accept their ''better'' deal which let's not forget will sink us further into the system.

 

[mereside]

Think I said it somewhere else in this thread woodsmoke
I'm a firm believer that from day one both our government negotiation team have been in cahoots with the EU negotiation team to drag it out to the eleventh hour then scare people about the negative effects of a no deal exit in order get people to accept their ''better'' deal which let's not forget will sink us further into the system.

Not only the government in power but now hasn't a bill just gone though to stop the government from getting funds and things set up for a no deal brexit so its harder to plan for this?

 

[jimmy milnes]

Not only the government in power but now hasn't a bill just gone though to stop the government from getting funds and things set up for a no deal brexit so its harder to plan for this?

Yeah matey I read something like that on my Google news feed... bloody disgraceful no wonder we're a laughing stock

 

[mereside]

Is this anyone on here lol, were all doomed I tel yer doomed.
Brexit-prepper trains to hunt deer and squirrels and stockpiles ahead of 'chaos' | Metro News

 

[enfieldspares]

What utterly baffles me (and I was, and still am, a firm member of the Leave camp) is that May, et al, have had over two years to get this ruddy mess sorted out, and now, two months before we actually leave the EU they're STILL running around with their heads up their own arses arguing and bickering amongst themselves.

Yep. And by the time this has gone up to the House of Lords, then back to the House of Commons, then back to the House of Lords again and finally gets Royal Assent I'll have forty days if there is no deal to sort out my affairs in France and so will UK industry. Leave, or Remain, this Prime Minister has been nothing but inept. From calling an election when she didn't need to (which delayed all this Brexit negotiation process by three months) to putting us "in hoc" to Arlene Foster this is clear demonstration as I've said all along that Theresa May is incompetent, out of her depth and probably the worst Prime Minster this nation has ever had bar none.

 

[Woodsmoke]

Theresa May is incompetent, out of her depth and probably the worst Prime Minster this nation has ever had

I agree wholeheartedly

 

[landkeeper]

Tis a shame ,that after the referendum which was democratically the will of the people ,myriads of politicians saw fit to try their best to reverse the vote or wriggle and squiggle about it , this just lead imho to a pathetically weak negotiating platform for TM when dealing with the Eu .I wouldn't be her greatest fan but give her her due shes still there fighting and trying despite a dozen daggers sticking out of her back and her legs cut of at the kness by her so called party allies

 

[Woodsmoke]

give her her due shes still there fighting and trying despite a dozen daggers sticking out of her back and her legs cut of at the kness by her so called party allies

I've got no sympathy for her whatsoever. The moment she got herself into Number Ten she surrounded herself with the biggest shower of venomous, self-serving snakes in the country. Hardly any surprise she's now getting bitten

 

[jimmy milnes]

EU news: How the bloc imposed the HIGHEST electricity and gas bills on Britain | UK | News | Express.co.uk

 

[enfieldspares]

Yes.That pesky EU. Now it's going to force companies to make vital spare parts available, and the products themselves more accessible for be repaired, to independent repair shops so that consumers aren't stuck with having to be tied in to costly exclusive service contracts with an item's original supplier. I don't believe it!

Now when the motor on my tumble dryer breaks down in future maybe I'm going to have to only pay a tenner for new motor brushes instead of a hundred quid for a whole new motor from the manufacturer. It's gone far enough "You'll need a new motor for that Missus. I'll be back with it after the weekend when I've got back from my UKIP Conference."

THAT EU! WE SHOULD TAKE BACK CONTROL AND STOP THESE THINGS THAT'LL SAVE CONSUMERS MONEY FROM HAPPENING!

Here it is:
'Right to repair' gathers force

 

[Chasey]

I heard this radio advert this morning, asking all sorts of questions regarding Brexit . . . . .

-What will happen to my export business?
-Will I need a new passport?
-Will I still be able to live in Europe?

Etc, etc . . . . .

'Pathetic' radio ads stoke public fear of no-deal Brexit, says MP

What utterly baffles me (and I was, and still am, a firm member of the Leave camp) is that May, et al, have had over two years to get this ruddy mess sorted out, and now, two months before we actually leave the EU they're STILL running around with their heads up their own arses arguing and bickering amongst themselves.

How the bloody hell did we end up in the position of having these idiots in charge of government? I seriously doubt they'd be capable of organising a kiddies MacDonalds visit

Isnt it obvious?

Leaving the EU is a total utter disaster. Cameron totally misjudged the mood of the people, and now the powers that be are desperately trying to salvage some tiny speck of hope out of what is quite obviously a no hope scenario.

There is no good deal scenario. It's a bit like god.

Millions believe in their version of god but that doesent make his existence any more likely.

The truth is. there is no good deel Brexit where the UK blossoms in new found freedom.

We are either screwed and subservient to the EU via Mays deal which the EU will accept because it gives them power over us they never had before, or theres a no deal and we are just totally screwed

 

[enfieldspares]

The problem with Cameron, IMHO, was the nonsense of project fear. People don't take well to being taken for idiots. Cameron should have been honest and sold the benefits of the EU and not the disbenefits of losing. You sell a thing by highlighting its features and explaining why'll they'll benefit the customer. You don't sell things by almost risible "knocking copy" towards the alternative...which in effect was project fear. I disagree Chasey that there's no good deal Brexit. The Norway Model would be a good deal Brexit. It'd retain the free movement of goods, capital, services and labour yet at the same time allow the UK control of its fish stocks and its own agricultural policies. And we'd be to the letter of the law no longer in the EU. We'd have Brexit.

 

[Roro]

The problem with Cameron, IMHO, was the nonsense of project fear. People don't take well to being taken for idiots. Cameron should have been honest and sold the benefits of the EU and not the disbenefits of losing. You sell a thing by highlighting its features and explaining why'll they'll benefit the customer. You don't sell things by almost risible "knocking copy" towards the alternative...which in effect was project fear. I disagree Chasey that there's no good deal Brexit. The Norway Model would be a good deal Brexit. It'd retain the free movement of goods, capital, services and labour yet at the same time allow the UK control of its fish stocks and its own agricultural policies. And we'd be to the letter of the law no longer in the EU. We'd have Brexit.

The free movement of people was what caused cameron to start the brexit vote in the first place. The eu has simply become too intrusive in the affairs of member countries. It wants the final word in everything, and if allowed to continue will only get worse, until national governments have about the same power as county councils. Virtually none.

 

[enfieldspares]

Yes, you're correct RORO, absolutely, re Free Movement. And the problem is that Cameron didn't sell the fact that "Brits" have it too as being of greater benefit to us than the disbenefit of Roumanian gypsy pickpockets camping out on Park Lane. No, I don't like them here, and I don't want them here. They are as equally invasive in Paris in some areas where I work. But what I get in return, that benefit that I have of Free Movement, far outweighs the disbenefit of them coming here. Also as everybody should know the UK has always had the right to deport them from the UK under EU Law but has never seen fit to do so. Don't blame the EU for that failing if the UK hasn't made use of what it could do to remedy the issue.

 

[bowji john]

The problems with the EU are far deeper than that

But we've gone round and round this argument so many times it is difficult to see any coming together

I'm now more interested in just how far this Parliamentary body will go to defy the will of the people and just exactly what the people will do about it

That we will discover very shortly

 

[mereside]

The problems with the EU are far deeper than that

But we've gone round and round this argument so many times it is difficult to see any coming together

I'm now more interested in just how far this Parliamentary body will go to defy the will of the people and just exactly what the people will do about it

That we will discover very shortly

you can see it coming, we were to thick to vote in the first place and it's our interest not to leave as they know best, but my honest opinion is, the EU can't keep propping up country's forever and at some point it will all come crashing down. I honestly think we will be better off out nothing will change my mind, they should all get on with making the leave happen and stop whining and stabbing each other to get what they want out of it.

 

[Klenchblaize]

Leavers need to calm down as at 23:00hrs Greenwich Meantime on Friday, 29th March 2019, we are leaving the EU. Period.

What is your broblem with this given when we voted in the refrendum no one - not even Hornet - knew the detail of our exit arrangements?

K

 

[jimmy milnes]

Leavers need to calm down as at 23:00hrs Greenwich Meantime on Friday, 29th March 2019, we are leaving the EU. Period.

What is your broblem with this given when we voted in the refrendum no one - not even Hornet - knew the detail of our exit arrangements?

K

And likewise do you also have a crystal ball handy to say what staying in will be like in the coming years ?
You see this is the problem faced by both sides of the argument K nobody truly knows what will happen when we leave but likewise nobody truly knows what would come in the future if we stayed in.

 

[bowji john]

The difficulty will come if the details of our exit arrangements do not pass the 'smell test'

Furthermore that smell test will be conducted against a backdrop of deep mistrust and dislike of the political class and 2 and a half years of lies and spin as this Gov has tried every which way to wriggle off the hook

You would have had to have lived the last 2 years on the dark side of the moon to fail to recognise that Parliament has an utter disdain for result of the referendum

This 'peoples vote' is just another attempt to thwart the result yet maintain an illusion of democracy

It might well end up a matter of perception - If the people feel shafted, Parliament might not tap dance its way out of real trouble