Humane dispatch
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If you look at the section of a sheep/cow's head on the HSA website, you'll see where the brain sits - and how easy it is to have the barrel at an angle so that it misses the hind brain - which you need to hit. .22 has to destroy this to kill, the concussion will stun the animal but unless the hind brain is hit, it's still alive. You have to aim effectively down the spine. If unsure there's no shame in a second shot.
howa243
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Making a semi auto .22 a reasonable choice then?
Woodsmoke
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Thanks for all the comments guys. I think the solution will be to pick up a cheap .410. I have a couple of 12s, but our sheep are Shetlands so aren't all that big, and a full-size 12-core might prove a bit unwieldy. I reckon a .410 will be just the thing. Hopefully it won't be needed though! I've shot plenty for the freezer with the .22, but invariably they've been calm, still, and haven't seen it coming. I reckon it'll be be a lot different with an animal that's flooded with adrenaline though, so the .410 makes a lot of sense 
Sick sheep aren’t normally flooded with adrenaline!! They normally are disinterested and won’t moveThanks for all the comments guys. I think the solution will be to pick up a cheap .410. I have a couple of 12s, but our sheep are Shetlands so aren't all that big, and a full-size 12-core might prove a bit unwieldy. I reckon a .410 will be just the thing. Hopefully it won't be needed though! I've shot plenty for the freezer with the .22, but invariably they've been calm, still, and haven't seen it coming. I reckon it'll be be a lot different with an animal that's flooded with adrenaline though, so the .410 makes a lot of sense
This might be useful to you if you haven’t seen it yet
Introduction
www.hsa.org.uk
Woodsmoke
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No, but one with a broken leg is. Not the first time I've seen them get caught in hurdles and then gallop around in a panic. This ain't my first rodeo
the answer I got was yes Mr H no problem.
Tf223
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As do I, buthas been conditioned for a slightly wider ‘humane killing of animals’
might be a bit late to the party but would you not need to carry an air tank around? No country for old me springs to mind haha
Hudson12
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Ha ha no they use a 22 blank only seen air ones in a slaughter house piped in
ahh right right - Feel like a numpty now haha
Just had a read of my ticket and it says " wounded or injured deer or any other animal"
Tf223
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I’ve always thought mine was perhaps a little more open than the average... seems not to relate to dispatch necessarily
How do you define or understand "dispatch" as being different from "killing" in this context?
Alan
Tf223
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My understanding of dispatch is the finishing off of a wounded, injured, or ill animal as an act of mercy.
The word killing however can however be interpreted he more widely to include an animal that is otherwise healthy, for example to include slaughter for the purposes of home slaughter/butchery, or pest control as a 410 pistol is also permitted for (in and around farm buildings, release pens etc).
Ultimately a courts decision but in generality to licensing law, conditions should be clear, concise, enforceable. They’d be liable to look toward the common understanding of words as per dictionary definitions, unless otherwise justified.
Great, that’s nice for you. But is that for a bigger farming operation?
My opinion is that for full on farming this could be reasonably justified. But seeking a dispatch pistol for 4 chickens, a goat and 3 sheep is, on many occasions people using that excuse just to get a pistol.
It is closely liked to the debate / argument about a stalker carrying a dispatch pistol - which i think is a load of tosh.
I usually use a 20 bore as that's what I have in the cabinet as I haven't bought a .410 yet. Can't see the need for a pistol and the extra hassle it brings
Interestingly my firearms department don't let me have a humane dispatch condition on my rifles, apparently keeping livestock isn't s good enough reason.
Interestingly my firearms department don't let me have a humane dispatch condition on my rifles, apparently keeping livestock isn't s good enough reason.
Big Mat wrote "Interestingly my firearms department don't let me have a humane dispatch condition on my rifles, apparently keeping livestock isn't s good enough reason."
I did the course and passed, even bought a 410 hushpower but was denied humane dispatch condition by my local Police, although they replied that I couldn't have 'Human Dispatch' LOL . Sold the 410 and bought a 20 gauge instead.
I did the course and passed, even bought a 410 hushpower but was denied humane dispatch condition by my local Police, although they replied that I couldn't have 'Human Dispatch' LOL . Sold the 410 and bought a 20 gauge instead.
Irish Bob
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I don't believe you need anything relating to a section 2.
For a section 1 some forces do not want to grant such a condition on a rifle as they believe the next variation will be for a pistol.
When I didn't the HD course the instructor said that following every previous course he had been contacted by more than one FEO to discuss a variation for a pistol from an attendee. Btw, his view was a 410 shotgun was the best option.
These threads should really be titled "can I get a pistol".
For a section 1 some forces do not want to grant such a condition on a rifle as they believe the next variation will be for a pistol.
When I didn't the HD course the instructor said that following every previous course he had been contacted by more than one FEO to discuss a variation for a pistol from an attendee. Btw, his view was a 410 shotgun was the best option.
These threads should really be titled "can I get a pistol".
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