Humane dispatch

[Alantoo]

My understanding of dispatch is the finishing off of a wounded, injured, or ill animal as an act of mercy.

The word killing however can however be interpreted he more widely to include an animal that is otherwise healthy, for example to include slaughter for the purposes of home slaughter/butchery, or pest control as a 410 pistol is also permitted for (in and around farm buildings, release pens etc).

Ultimately a courts decision but in generality to licensing law, conditions should be clear, concise, enforceable. They’d be liable to look toward the common understanding of words as per dictionary definitions, unless otherwise justified.

I think "dispatch", "slaughter" and "killing" would be synonyms. They all can have "Humane" in front...and although we may often use "Humane dispatch" with injured or sick animals, "humane killing" or "mercy killing" are equally accurate and appropriate.

Slaughter we often use when referring to killing animals for food in an Abattoir or Slaughterhouse, but also for straightforward killing...

My FAC, which was conditioned when I was approved for the local Police HAD scheme, refers to the rifles and solid slug ammunition "...to which this certificate relates shall be used for the HUMANE SLAUGHTER of ANIMALS." there was never any intention that the RTC deer carcasses would be going into the food chain.

Big Mat wrote "Interestingly my firearms department don't let me have a humane dispatch condition on my rifles, apparently keeping livestock isn't s good enough reason."
I did the course and passed, even bought a 410 hushpower but was denied humane dispatch condition by my local Police, although they replied that I couldn't have 'Human Dispatch' LOL . Sold the 410 and bought a 20 gauge instead.

The humane dispatch condition is only relative to your rifles (and solid slugs) on your FAC...the shotguns do not need the condition.

Alan

 

[geordieh]

Great, that’s nice for you. But is that for a bigger farming operation?

My opinion is that for full on farming this could be reasonably justified. But seeking a dispatch pistol for 4 chickens, a goat and 3 sheep is, on many occasions people using that excuse just to get a pistol.

It is closely liked to the debate / argument about a stalker carrying a dispatch pistol - which i think is a load of tosh.

No not for farming at all.Just stalking

 

[Harry mac]

Big Mat wrote "Interestingly my firearms department don't let me have a humane dispatch condition on my rifles, apparently keeping livestock isn't s good enough reason."
I did the course and passed, even bought a 410 hushpower but was denied humane dispatch condition by my local Police, although they replied that I couldn't have 'Human Dispatch' LOL . Sold the 410 and bought a 20 gauge instead.

 

[CharlieT]

My understanding of dispatch is the finishing off of a wounded, injured, or ill animal as an act of mercy.

The word killing however can however be interpreted he more widely to include an animal that is otherwise healthy, for example to include slaughter for the purposes of home slaughter/butchery, or pest control as a 410 pistol is also permitted for (in and around farm buildings, release pens etc).

Ultimately a courts decision but in generality to licensing law, conditions should be clear, concise, enforceable. They’d be liable to look toward the common understanding of words as per dictionary definitions, unless otherwise justified.

As a farmer, all my firearms, be that pistol or rifle are conditioned as yours for "the humane killing of animals", which incidentally is the recommended wording in the HO firearms guidance.

 

[kes]

I farm and none of my rifles or shotguns are conditioned for humane killing of animals - I reckon DEFRA advice covers it.

 

[VSS]

I farm and none of my rifles or shotguns are conditioned for humane killing of animals - I reckon DEFRA advice covers it.

I'm with you all the way. If it's suffering then you kill it, if you have the means. To not do so could potentially be an offence.

 

[Harry mac]

[QUOTE="Irish Bob, post: 1588005, member: 6800"
These threads should really be titled "can I get a pistol".
[/QUOTE]

Thousands of Americans and European hunters carry a pistol to finish off wounded game. But in UK they aren't suitable.
A pistol carried for HD, is just another tool. There will be times when it is NOT the best tool you have, but if you're in a situation where a bit of discression is advisable, or where the use of a longer gun would be awkward, they are perfect.
People of "that" mindset will be put off purely by the fact that the gun will generally be restricted to 2 shots.
No, I don't have a pistol for my HD duties, I'm reluctant to even ask precisely because of the predjudiced attitues that can be encountered, but when I hunted in Germany I carried one routinely, as did quite a few German hunters I met.
I don't know if it's still the same, but the German Jagdschein used to allow you to own as many long guns as you deemed necessary and up to two pistols.

 

[Robbie45]

I would of thought if your are culling any injured beasts then a shotgun is ideal, sheep 17hmr. Most farmers will use a shotgun at close range for cattle.