palmer_mike
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Yes that’s the ones!
12B humane dispatch loads
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Don't suppose you weighed the bronze powder??
Typical! I knew someone would ask, just as I chucked it in the bin.
Sorry no I didn't.
cookingfat
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We did some testing last year to show our new HAD’s the advantages and its limitations.
Here’s the film of how it went.
On the down side we asked a company called primetake about loading more up for us and other constabularies that have HAD schemes
They wonted £5 per cartridges and minimum order of 7,000!!
With Essex and Wiltshire constabularies coming on board with there own schemes using the Hampshire model there will be a need for these cartridges as i have said before as a useful tool in the box.
If anyone knows or is involved in making these cartridges could they please contact me.
Tony
Here’s the film of how it went.
On the down side we asked a company called primetake about loading more up for us and other constabularies that have HAD schemes
They wonted £5 per cartridges and minimum order of 7,000!!
With Essex and Wiltshire constabularies coming on board with there own schemes using the Hampshire model there will be a need for these cartridges as i have said before as a useful tool in the box.
If anyone knows or is involved in making these cartridges could they please contact me.
Tony
Tony
Very interesting video, thank you.
Presuming all those shots were with a 12b? Out of interest, do you know if anyone has filmed the same using a .410 with lead shot, as it would be interesting to see the results, both on paper and on actual deer heads?
either will work a std 410 loads at close up is equated to Dirty Harrys magnum so go ahead punk LOL . Its not something that should be shot at anything other than close . If you roll your own stubby 12 bore has more use and as pattern is not a real thing at the ranges used in dispatch.
Has anyone downloaded a 12b for this? I havn't reloaded shotgun cartridges for years but I would expect you could start with a pretty standard 70mm plastic wad 12 bore cartridge with small shot, opening up the star crimp, pouring out the contents, cutting off the star crimp reducing the powder and shot, reuse or adjust the plastic wad, make an overshot card and roll crimp to fit.
I was just about to suggest these. And there not 5 pound a bang.
I'll try and find the pictures
Smellydog
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Yes, kind of, for rats.
Can't remember but 3/4 Oz and 17-18 gn of red dot rings a bell.
cookingfat
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And this is a lot of the problem with stalkers who dont regularly use shotguns of any sort, they just don't know how they work and deploy any loads whether it's out of a 410 or 12g!
The question I get asked mostly on any DMQ course I help with is what shot size do you use, it doesn't mater if it's 4's or 9's, low power or high power at the distance most dispatching is done at. as said the shot is forced out in a column and this column gets wider the further out it gets, the 410 is one of the most used tools for the job but there will come a time when you just can't get close enough to make a human one shot dispatch which is why the 12g is probably the one that fits all especially with the range of ammunition available from safe shot through to a very load.
Found the cartridge bits in the bin, but no powder or shot. Through a process of elimination. The propellent and bronze powder weigh 14 grams so I'm guessing no more than 13 gram load of bronze powder
They also won't kill a cock pheasant at 5 yards
Smellydog
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Did it have what resembled glitter makeup look after?
A rusty makeup
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